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    GearHead,

    That info/argument is taken from JPFO and their Innocents Betrayed dvd, is it not? Good stuff!!!

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    From a book I was reading... I think the title was "Enemies Foreign and Domestic". Stuck with me..

    Sounds like I should look into "Innocents Betrayed".. What is JPFO?

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    Looked it up on the internet..

    Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHead
    Looked it up on the internet..

    Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership
    Also: http://www.innocentsbetrayed.com/

    :cool:

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    I agree that the police took the correct action. I was talking to my better half about this last night and the fact of the matter, almost nation wide, is that SWAT and Tactical Response Teams are not funded sufficiently, the average office does not receive enough training and trigger time for my personal satisfaction. I would venture to say that avid shootist are on average better trained and have more trigger time than the typical rural SWAT or TRT groups.

    I really would hate to see us, a community with active LEO and Military members second guess the guys and gals that were there. Those people will as BBadmin pointed out have to live with that experience the rest of their lives. My sympathies go to them as well as the family. This hits close to home for me, for all intents this could very well have been my daughter. I know that I would want the police to take action as soon as they could rather than be pacifistic.

    Are we gun nuts.. yeah, why not? Are we Rednecks.. uh, have you seen Karl at a shoot? (Sorry, Karl, it was too easy to pass up) ... but we are the people who will not be victims, who will not stand by while others are harmed in our presence. We are those people that the founding fathers intended to uphold and honor the intent if not the letter of the Second Amendment.

    So to the narrow minded and judgmental I say, fine, you are so very allowed and encouraged to hold your opinion of us. You may even voice that opinion, but do not expect that we will stand idly by as those who purport to protect our nation by continuing to confine and restrict our inherent rights drag our nation into fear and closed minded ignorance.

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    God I f**king hate hippies.

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    HunterCO great job in answering the moonbat. Thank you. Did you notice he said he spent 3 years in college but his grammar sounded more like an 8th grader if that.

    These people need to wake up and smell the coffee. A lot of the problems in this country can be traced right to the liberal mindset. Michelle Malkin, Anne Coulter and others have written volumns on this subject.

    Another point about the liberal mindset in this case is the victim status of todays society. I (may be wrong) but I believe it was Col. Cooper who had a article on this a few years ago. He went on to say that attacks like this did not and would not have happened years ago. For the simple fact that the teachers, kids, janitors or anyone else in the area would have beat is a## into the ground. There was none of this hiding under desks and locking down schools.

    As a Native of Colorado living outside the state for now anyway and not seeing first hand what happened in Baily it looks to me that the Police did what I would want them to do if my daughter were there. Attack and kill the SOB that is hurting those kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSparkens
    Brian, Please tell me you aren't blaming the officers at the School!!!! There is only one person to blame. The jerk that did this crime. I understand the statement "let's all trust them to be are only means of protection" but failed or not failed breach they could not sit by and let this go on.
    I wasn't precisely blaming the officers, but based on what little I know of SWAT tactics, a properly executed room takedown should have disoriented the BG enough that he wouldn't have gotten shots off before he was taken out by the SWAT officers. Shit happens and things don't always go down perfectly, but us armchair commandos find it easiest to look at the officers first. In all honesty, I wrote that as more of a response to the initial email that BBadmin got, saying that the police should be the only ones to do the jobs that require guns. My point was that sometimes they aren't all that good at it, as possibly shown in Bailey, and that it's foolish to put all your trust in them as the writer of the email believes we should.

    Hiya Paul! :mrgreen:

    Brian

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