Anyone read the analysis of the 2006 ballot proposals?

[Artyboy]

The only problem that I have with creating a new term that applies to same sex partnership is the potential for treating them differantly than marriages.

[Gman]

Sorry, but they're not the same. Marriage has meant the same thing for thousands of years. Why should it have a different meaning today?

I don't go for that 'living document' document crap either. I don't follow that "it depends on what the definition of 'is' is".

[HunterCO]

Sorry, but they're not the same. Marriage has meant the same thing for thousands of years. Why should it have a different meaning today?

I don't go for that 'living document' document crap either. I don't follow that "it depends on what the definition of 'is' is".

+100000000000

Give the homo's 10% off thier next vasoline purchase and kick them back in the closet.

[robsterclaw]

I say no to the minimum wage increase, moistly because it'll have automatic increases. Referendum C ?? I think it was automatically increase school spending amounts, and since it's aprt of the state constitution it can't be stopped. So when we were having budget shortfalls a few years back, school spending went up, and that's the reason why the DMV no longer has and office in Security. It was easy for the soldiers to hop off base and now they have to go to Powers and Airport. It's also the reason why there's only 1 office in all of Colo Springs to get a driving test or learners permit. That's at Austin Bluffs and that's a cluster f*ck of an office. That's why we take our kids all the way to Pueblo to get their permits and driving tests.

I say NO to anything with auto increases, and normally I would be for it, because it would hurt the cheap ass places like you local Pizza Hut franchises. Them cheap bastards now charge 1.99 for a 2liter they paid .80 for from pepsi. (inside info) and they charge .49 for that extra marinara that had been free for 20some years, and still is at most other places in the country.

Marriage is man and woman, I'd ok a different term like civil unions.

By the way, my wifey works at D-11 and they are walking on 20 year old carpet, and won't replace it because there's asbestos under it, and she can't have OT even when they are behind in their work. There will not be decent accountability in schools until the teachers union is toast, and there's school vouchers.

[Scott]

Give the homo's 10% off thier next vasoline purchase and kick them back in the closet.

[roll]

I do agree with Artyboy that giving it a different term other than marriage does leave the door open for special treatment. I don't agree with the whole concept any more than the rest of you, but I also don't want to see special treatment given to them or give them another excuse to cry discrimenation.

[Gman]

Let 'em cry. Referendum I let's them have use of the word "spouse" to refer to their "partner".

Main Entry: spouse
Pronunciation: 'spaus also 'spauz
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French espus (masculine) & espuse (feminine), from Latin sponsus betrothed man, groom & sponsa betrothed woman, bride, both from sponsus, past participle of spondEre to promise, betroth; akin to Greek spendein to pour a libation, Hittite sipant-
: married person : HUSBAND, WIFE

Having hospital visitation and making health care decisions for one another can already be arranged. Hell, I had to get durable power of attorney, medical power of attorney, and a HIPAA waiver in order to handle my wife's health issues (thanks Congress! :evil: ). Homosexuals can do the same today. What they really want is for their behavior to be condoned and given some kind of moral equivalency. It's too bad they can't tell the truth in promoting their agenda.

[MuzzleFlash]

I'm tired of government trying to socially engineer society. That includes meddling in the free market that sets wages. Let supply and demand set the price for work. The problem with minimum wage is that it prices low-skill, entry-level people out of the market. This prevents many from getting much needed experience to start on their pursuit of the American dream. This creates more unemployment and and dependency on government.

Think about it. What if the minimum wage were set to $25/hr? The difference between $7 and $25 or even $100 is just one of degree.

To hear the liberals describe it (blah, blah, "livable wage", blah, blah, and other stupid platitudes) they clearly think these people will be stuck at minimum wage for the rest of their lives. Like sacking groceries is a career or something. So we have to use the coercive powers of government to help them out by raising their wages. Of course employers will supposedly swallow the additional cost in a competitive marketplace where nothing else has changed including what the market will let them charge their customers for goods & services. That's just ignorant and stupid.

Most people start out and progress as they gain experience and become more valuable to their employers. The reason McD's pays over $7 to start is the market is setting that wage. Funny how they pay that much without a government mandate, huh?