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    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    1) DoS regs...just can't run a BC or anything not approved yet on their guns. The SAW may be exempted since we don't run Sims through it.
    I figured that played a part in it. You need to jump ship on the DOS nonsense. There are better clients out there.

    2) When teaching, I like to tailor my set up to what the student's will most likely be using, ie... never taught a CCW/civilian course in a drop rig, won't run a SWAT school in jeans & concealment gear. As the BC is designed by and for entry teams, I have it available for them to run & test to determine for themselves if it is a viable option.

    I do keep some commonality between my training guns & work guns. Teaching gun is more of a T&E platform.
    What length rifle do you have the BC on? What's your experience been using it for entries and CQB?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-Boy View Post
    I figured that played a part in it. You need to jump ship on the DOS nonsense. There are better clients out there.

    I know, I know.....

    What length rifle do you have the BC on? What's your experience been using it for entries and CQB?
    I'm running one on my 10" gun. Since 2/3 of the agencies I've taught and talked with are using or switching to shorties for dedicated entry teams, I left it on that upper. The 14.5"+ guns don't need a comp in my opinion. I haven't been able to run it in a true, closed up house yet but even in open top dedtcated shoothouses, it will blow small picture frames off the walls when running them. When you have several of them running together, you definately pay more attention to your relative position a bit better, esuring you are on line/arch or nor sticking your face too close to a muzzle. Concussion is more noticable than an A2 of course, however with guys trying out PWS & other more agressive brakes, it is MUCH better than any other brake I've seen run. Noise is about the same as normal with 4-5 guys shooting in a shoothouse and with your comms gear and plugs in. In low light, flash is intermittent; some barely noticable, some fireballs. Depends on ammo & burn rates like any other. I definately recommend gloves if running your hand close to the end, or some sort of stop to remind you...I've seen a few burnt fingers (builds character!). The main benefit I've seen for LE is their confidence with multiple shots. They get more comfortable with 4,5,6+ rounds on target and out of the 2 shot habit. Since they don't get to spend as time and ammo as we do shooting and comfortable with a stock gun, this is where the BC shines for them. I think for those that need it, it is worth the investment & the extra concussion. Of course, there are some depts that are still using FA guns for entries & same thing...not enough time spend behind the gun & they forget their fundamentals at times & the BC helps them stay on target.

    For experienced and comfortable shooters, the BC is not a lifesaver. It has some advantages and disadvantages...treat it like any other part & find out if it works for you or not. For those who don't or can't put the time in needed, it still has it's advantages and disadvantages and that shooter needs to find out for themself if it is worth it (and if their team is willing to put up with it). As for me...I see a little difference in my splits on the range. Wouldn't want to shoot it out the door of a sub though....

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