What I have said on CO4x4 I will say again.

The environazis are getting EXCATLY what they want. They don't want the shooters out of the NF. They don't want the wheelers out of the NF. They don't want motorcyclists out. They don't want equestrians out.

THEY WANT EVERYONE OUT who doesn't have a kayak, subaru, and a mountain bike. Ooops, almost forgot the Tevas...

But look at what is happening. Get the wheelers to blame the shooters. Get the shooters to blame the motorcyclists. Let them all blame each other and pick them off one by one.

Here is the real problem. The NF is property that we all own. None of us have an exclusive lease to do on it as we want while not being bothered by someone else.

I like to go camping. When I go, I generally get rid of a few rounds. Does it make noise in the NF? Sure. But, again, no-one has exlcuisve use so they can live with the noise I make. Does that motorcycle driving by my campsite make noise in the middle of the night? Sure it does. But guess, what I have to learn to live with it.

What many people are missing is common courtesy to one another. I limit my shooting to daylight hours. I try and do it well after people are done sleeping in. Yes, I can fire within 100 yards of a campsite, but is that courteous? No. If there are people around, I try and go somewhere where my disturbance is kept to a minimum.

Normally, only if people are a$$hats to me, will I not try and be accomidating. I still have a first-come-first-served attitude though. I have been asked when camping (getting up there on a thursday night to get a good spot) if I would mind moving my camp because someone else who came up Saturday morning wanted to be close to the trailhead. Yes, I mind.

But really, working together against the environazis and common courtesy go along way. If everyone want the Forest Service to solve the problems, they will. They will take access away from everyone.

-Dana