Quote Originally Posted by Gman
We're not talking about any requirement to add CCW holders. If the DB sunsets, it's not up to a Sheriff's discretion to add CCW holders to the statewide DB. There is no statewide DB. They couldn't add you if they wanted to. How am I not stating this clearly enough?
You don't understand the current law does not require them to enter anybody in to the CBI data base (This is what people are referring to as the CCW DB). The current law only requires them to report statistics as to how many permits were issued, denied, revoked ect. This bill would only remove that requirement before it sunsets. Sheriffs who enter pemitee's into CBI will continue to do so just as they did BEFORE the shall issue law. There is no such thing as a CCW specific data base it's called CBI and this bill does nothing to stop them from entering permit holders into it.

Quote Originally Posted by Gman
As to the Castle Doctrine, one must not prove a fear, but it is understood to be reasonable that one WOULD fear an intruder. Someone illegally entering your dwelling probably isn't there to award you the Publisher's Clearing House Sweepstakes. Read the entire bill. I don't think it's that complicated to figure out what it means without it being twisted into something that isn't there.
The revised law states;
AN OCCUPANT OF A DWELLING, PLACE OF BUSINESS, OR VEHICLE IS PRESUMED TO HAVE HELD A REASONABLE FEAR OF IMMINENT PERIL OF DEATH OR SERIOUS BODILY INJURY TO HIMSELF OR HERSELF OR A THIRD PERSON...
If you can not clearly see the difference in what is posted above in red vs what they changed it to I don't know what to say. If you don't think an over zealous prosecutor could use that new wording to hang somebody for protecting their home you must not know the legal system very well. I will take the old law hands down its worded much stronger and gives a prosecutor much less to use against somebody.

Quote Originally Posted by Gman
Just as we are presumed to be innocent until proven guilty, we are presumed to fear someone breaking into our homes. We don't have to prove that we had a fear of the intruder nor do we have to prove the intent of the intruder. We also don't get into a civil lawsuit by the intruder's family.
I sure wish that was the case but it's not. You will have to prove everything you claim you wouldn't. I have been there I know what it's like and I didn't even shoot anybody. I simply had a shotgun and was defending my home and ended up in court on felony charges.