Colorado make my day better law.

[HunterCO]

[quote="Gman"]The sunset of the DB is precisely this;

18-12-206. Sheriff - "ISSUANCE OR DENIAL OF PERMITS" - "REPORT".

Does that make it clear or are you still not getting it? For the third time it has nothing to do with sheriffs entering people into CBI. Once again for the third time if it did then every county in the state would "HAVE TO ENTER PERMIT HOLDERS IN CBI". Yet some sheriffs don't and some do just as it was once again BEFORE the shall issue law. CBI is a "LAW ENFORCEMENT DATA BASE" If you actually read the law it specifically exempts them.

As to HB 1104, Here's how it looks after emerging from committee;

First Regular Session
Sixty-sixth General Assembly
STATE OF COLORADO
PREAMENDED
This Unofficial Version Includes Committee
Amendments Not Yet Adopted on Second Reading
LLS NO. 07-0181.01 Richard Sweetman HOUSE BILL 07-1011
House Committees Senate Committees
Judiciary
A BILL FOR AN ACT
101 CONCERNING THE USE OF PHYSICAL FORCE AGAINST A PERSON WHO
102 MAKES AN UNLAWFUL ENTRY INTO A PLACE OF BUSINESS.
Bill Summary
(Note: This summary applies to this bill as introduced and does
not necessarily reflect any amendments that may be subsequently
adopted.)
Creates a presumption that an occupant who uses deadly physical
force against an intruder has a reasonable fear of imminent death or
serious bodily injury to himself or herself or another person. Sets forth
conditions under which the presumption does not apply.
Adds vehicles and places of business to the locations in which the
presumption applies.
HOUSE SPONSORSHIP
Gardner C.,
SENATE SPONSORSHIP
Harvey, and Schultheis
-2- 1011
1 Be it enacted by the General Assembly of the State of Colorado:
2 SECTION 1. 18-1-704.5, Colorado Revised Statutes, is amended
3 to read:
4 18-1-704.5. Use of deadly physical force against an intruder.
5 (1) The general assembly hereby recognizes that the citizens of Colorado
6 have a right to expect absolute safety within their own homes DWELLINGS
7 AND PLACES OF BUSINESS.
8 (2) Notwithstanding the provisions of section 18-1-704, any
9 occupant of a dwelling OR PLACE OF BUSINESS, is justified in using any
10 degree of physical force, including deadly physical force, against another
11 person when that other person has made an unlawful entry into the
12 dwelling OR PLACE OF BUSINESS, and when the occupant has a reasonable
13 belief that such other person has committed a crime in the dwelling OR
14 PLACE OF BUSINESS in addition to the uninvited entry, or is committing or
15 intends to commit a crime against a person or property in addition to the
16 uninvited entry, and when the occupant reasonably believes that such
17 other person might use any physical force, no matter how slight, against
18 any occupant.
19 (3) Any occupant of a dwelling OR PLACE OF BUSINESS using
20 physical force, including deadly physical force, in accordance with the
21 provisions of subsection (2) of this section shall be immune from
22 criminal prosecution for the use of such force.
23 (4) Any occupant of a dwelling OR PLACE OF BUSINESS using
24 physical force, including deadly physical force, in accordance with the
25 provisions of subsection (2) of this section shall be immune from any
26 civil liability for injuries or death resulting from the use of such force.
-3- 1011
1 SECTION 2. Safety clause. The general assembly hereby finds,
2 determines, and declares that this act is necessary for the immediate
3 preservation of the public peace, health, and safety.

If it helps you make conclusions about intent, the antis are completely against the passage of HB 1104. It appears to have bipartisan support and will likely pass.

Well first off it is not HB1104 that is an insurance bill :P It is actually HB1011 and what you just quoted was the original make my day law not the new proposed bill.

I know you are under a lot of stress with the wife I hope she is doing better and I hope you don't take offense to anything I have posted. :cool:

[SigsRule]

Well they removed the more egregious portions but lines 12 through 18 still put "conditions" which have to be met in addition to the uninvited entry. I like it better now, but it would still give a aggressive DA opportunity to press charges and make you prove you had reasonable belief that ...

[Gman]

HunterCO, do you like kicking blind puppies or something?[wink]

First off, I never said there was a requirement to add CCW holders into CBI. I think we're both getting frustrated because we're talking about 2 different things. I'm talking about a CCW DB and you're thinking CBI. The bill in question regarding a CCW DB is HB 1174, not HB 1104, (I somehow morphed both bills together and ended up with a single insurance measure :roll: ). I fixed the FUBAR references above. Read HB 1147 here;
HB 1174--CONCERNING A REPEAL OF THE PROHIBITION AGAINST A STATEWIDE DATABASE FOR PERSONS HOLDING PERMITS TO CARRY CONCEALED HANDGUNS.

The original make my day law did not include businesses, as the text that I quoted from HB 1011 does. Also note the dates in the posting above, 2007, and the inclusion of "vehicles" in the summary even though they were removed from the text of the bill.

The wife is doing better. She'll be coming home in a little over a week. As to stress, you have no idea. Work sucks to high heaven.

...and then I come here and get abused by my shooting buddies.[abused]

When is the snow going to thaw? I need to throw some lead. [postal]

[HunterCO]

If they would have left it alone and simply added the businesses to it I would have no problem with it. They changed the wording big time and I will fight it to the death the Demonrats gutted it.

Glad to hear the wife is doing better and coming home soon. I hope to see you at a shoot this year.

Last but not least if your shooting buddies can't abuse you then who can. :P [abused]

[Gman]

:mrgreen:

[Gman]

It's dead now. Crisis averted. The libs said it gave business owners "a license to kill". Gee, wouldn't that have been bad for their business if they kept killing their customers? :roll:

I'm glad that our Congressional sessions are short enough that they can't screw up everything in a single session.