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    Default Form 4 in Adams County?

    Has anyone got a ATF Form 4 signed off on by the Adams County sheriff?

    I called asking about it today and you would have thought I asked for a permit for a Tactical Nuke.

    I'm looking into a trust as well.

    Thanks!

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    The sheriff in Adams will not sign off. Your only option is to go corporate or trust.
    "The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." (Edmund Burke 1784)

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    Thats what I figured Thanks

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    I am going in to talk with him on tuesday...but I am sure it will be the same thing everyone else seems to hear.

    Has anyone out there had him sign off?

    If not, anybody got a good link for a "trust" set-up, and what are the associated risks with a trust?

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    The only risk I can think of over a trust over individual is that you could revoke the trust, and if it owned NFA items you would have NFA items that were owned by an entity that no longer exists. But you can just not revoke it.

    I had a lawyer here in Colorado Springs work with a firearms attorney in DC to do my trust, PM me if you want their info.

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    Once I figure out how to do a PM, I will!

    Do you know if you can "change" a trust, say if you had someone that would inherit, but they passed on, and you needed to add someone else?

    If so, then i will go this route for sure.

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    A tactical nuke -- that would be what, a destructive device?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    Once I figure out how to do a PM, I will!

    Do you know if you can "change" a trust, say if you had someone that would inherit, but they passed on, and you needed to add someone else?

    If so, then i will go this route for sure.
    It's your trust... you can change whatever you want, whenever you want.

    You can also take stuff out and sell it as you wish (just make sure you remove it from the trust), and you can add as many items as you wish.

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    My first .45 suppressor I had the form filled out to me only. The sheriff signed off on it no problem.

    My next 2 suppressors I put on a trust. This is the way I will do it from now on. I just got quicken will maker and made the trust up like that. There are posts on this on silencertests.com

    Make sure it is a revocable trust.

    You can name the trust anything you want. You could literally name it the "bad *** toy" trust if you so desired.

    My trust name has my name and my fathers name in it. But since I put my first suppressor filed just to me. My father can not handle that suppressor unless I'm around. Where as the one on the trust, either of us can take it where ever we want.

    If you need any help, I can shoot you an E-mail of a general trust. You can re-type it (cause they are pictures) and have the trust for your self. I altered it a little bit.

    rydercurryATgmail.com (replace the AT with @)

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    Quote Originally Posted by alucard View Post
    My first .45 suppressor I had the form filled out to me only. The sheriff signed off on it no problem.

    My next 2 suppressors I put on a trust. This is the way I will do it from now on. I just got quicken will maker and made the trust up like that. There are posts on this on silencertests.com

    Make sure it is a revocable trust.

    You can name the trust anything you want. You could literally name it the "bad *** toy" trust if you so desired.

    My trust name has my name and my fathers name in it. But since I put my first suppressor filed just to me. My father can not handle that suppressor unless I'm around. Where as the one on the trust, either of us can take it where ever we want.

    If you need any help, I can shoot you an E-mail of a general trust. You can re-type it (cause they are pictures) and have the trust for your self. I altered it a little bit.

    rydercurryATgmail.com (replace the AT with @)

    Awesome! I will be doing this then! I'll shoot you can email once I finish this up.

    I got my CCW paperwork and prints done today no problem, but had to drop off the ATF forms to the Sherrif to have put on his desk. He is supposed to call me, but we will see if that happens or not. I hope I didn't screw up by leaving the forms with him.

    As far as naming who can handle the firearms, you put you and your dad. Is it limited to 2, or could I name my mom or my friend or my girlfriend?

    What is a revocable trust vs. a non-revocable trust? I could probably guess it, but I would rather hear it from someone who knows.

    Thanks for the info.

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