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You need a hug? I am a little too far away to give you a hug.Originally Posted by HoneyBadger
...I wish I had friends....
ETA: Just kidding! HoneyBadger don't care!
well.. I kinda do wish I had friends...
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles. --Jeff Cooper"
My feedback
My wife has been slowly coming on board with the idea of stocking up over the last year. However, she has recently been pushed into overdrive because of the fires. Our hometown, Woodland Park, had a tiny bit of trouble getting gas and other things because the main highway was shutdown. Nothing major, but enough to be apparent. We don't live there anymore and it didn't affect us directly but it reminded her that our supply chain is extremely fragile. Now she is making lists too. It's great to have a second set of eyes looking at our prepping priorities. Her organization skills are far superior to mine so her input will be extremely valuable regarding how we can store the things we use everyday.For my wife the epiphany came during hurricane Katrina, when New Orleans flooded and society went to shit down there almost overnight. Runs on stores, looting run rampant, police confiscating guns from people just trying to hunker down and protect their property, people forced into evacuation shelters where crime ran rampant, etc. She realized then just how thin and easily broken down our infrastructure is, and got 90% behind prepping. We've been accumulating supplies ever since.
The one thing we try to lean toward accumulating though is stuff we normally use in every day life, so that we're always rotating our stock. Water was an issue until we figured out a system for rotating through that too.
Example: we drink a lot of milk at my house. A lot. We are currently evaluating different bulk dried milk options for flavor and price. If the price beats what we get milk at the grocery store for, and we like the taste, my home will likely soon only drink milk from powder and then we can justify buying a ton of it.
Our philosophy is "it will cost more tomorrow, so why not buy as much as we can now."
Don't believe this? Google "cost of beef rising" for one example...
Although, the missing piece in our preps is her shooting skills. She is OK with guns and knows the basics but she won't practice.
My "group" consists of my family. We're a bit too spread out to offer support in a major, instant type of SHTF scenario, but we bounce ideas off each other almost daily. If things were to slowly degrade (like a major depression) the family would merge and provide direct and mutual support.
As far as not wanting to practice. My GF love if we make it a date, bring picnic food, set up a course, and compete against each other. Try it! unless she just hates shooting.
I have been reading through a lot of the posts in this thread and started to analyze some of the info.
I determined there are different types of SHTF scenarios. Each one might require a little different action.
Each family, couple, or single member of a group need to have the ability to hold their own in case they are separated, but work/strive to get together with their group with several potential meeting spots.
I always thought the best way to survive would be nomadic as a group.
My home is not the perfect setup to be defended easily as many others wouldn't be as well if it came down to it.
Depending on the time of the year the mountains with the 150+ backwoods trails / service roads requiring a major 4 wheel drive might not be able to travel either due to snow. Head south to warmer climate, open areas.
Also thinking in a group dynamic, having certain roles ideally it would be nice to have a doctor or medic, someone who understands how to grow food, etc.
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles. --Jeff Cooper"
My feedback
my group originated in Louisiana. great growing season, fertile ground, plenty of water, and an indigenous population of so many "have nots" that makes it near impossible to stock enough bullets.
So you going to make a run to Louisiana or are most close by now?
Everyone mentions food supplies, medical supplies, water source and of course training and weapons. I was thinking those with groups that have been organizing what about a library of books and reference material? SHTF internet might be useless, and having something tangible would survive better. Also thinking about seeds for plants etc.
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles. --Jeff Cooper"
My feedback
Having people on board who posses these skill's are great. If not technical manuals, prints and diagrams to fix what needs be should already be in stock. Not everyone i know is mechanical, medical minded or who knows what. Cross Training is something that needed to be at the forefront of any group. Owning trauma kits yet knowing how the hell to use them (and when) will be more harmful than helpful.
Around here things are loose yet able to come together as needed, in short time period. I feel the mother nature kind of disaster, be it tornado's, floods FIRE, will show any group where the strength and weakness lie vs, storm troopers goose steeping in to a location near you.
Ice storms late spring dropping power lines, is the neighborhood able to cope, alternate power wise for X time w/out assistance from EMS.
The Great Kazoo's Feedback
"when you're happy you enjoy the melody but, when you're broken you understand the lyrics".
You are definitely thinking along the right lines here.
I'm assuming Internet would be useless, so I've been accumulating physical books and computer based equivilents (pdf's, etc) for some time now. In a prolonged SHTF scenario (TEOTWAWKI) these knowledge bases/references will be priceless. Also have enough seeds to plant crops for years.
use your preps.... instead of buying a 1lb sack of flour say "hey we go through a lot of this lets get that 25lb bag" start buying doubles of the canned stuff you cook that way your rotating through your stock. also if shtf your not stuck eating plain garbonzo beans wondering why you bought all this food youve never cooked with before
i have a solar charger for our kindle fire ive downloaded probably 600-700 books on everything from small team tactics to field dentistry ideally i would love to have all of them in print form but as long as i take care of the thing i should be ok
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