Calling Coyote

[10mm-man]

I try to go call atleast once a weekend. Sometimes I don't get to cuz the wife has other plans...

I called two weeks ago, early morning, north east Ft. Collins on the edge of a farmers field. I had a fox and coyote come in, the fox seen the coyote and beat feet. So I dropped the yote at 90 yards. Upon inspection the yote had a slight begining case of mange and had 3 fat ticks on his head. I drug the carcass into the woods and let it lay. It will feed other scavengers. And we have an abundance up north here.

That is exactly what I though about doing w/ it if it had the same. Someone on another forum said the same about leaving it for other scavengers.

As for the caliber, what size do you use? I have heard of guys using 22LR, 22Mag, 17HMR, 223 and up. We have a 22 and of course my 223 but figured we would use the 22 if he was close 25-50 yards. Any suggestions?

[motorep]

Did it take a long time for you to learn to call?

Ha! No.. A rabbit in distress turns off their common sense, I think. I'd heard rabbits die a couple times, just tried to imitate that.

[Song Dog]

That is exactly what I though about doing w/ it if it had the same. Someone on another forum said the same about leaving it for other scavengers.

As for the caliber, what size do you use? I have heard of guys using 22LR, 22Mag, 17HMR, 223 and up. We have a 22 and of course my 223 but figured we would use the 22 if he was close 25-50 yards. Any suggestions?

I use a .204. I'm sending a 40gr V-max BoatTail@ 3800 fps. Small caliber so I don't tear up the hide. Super flat tradjectory and has 980/770 ft-lbs of energy at 100/200 yards. If they are standing still, the yotes curl up and fall over. If they are runnin, they pile up real quick. I have never not had one drop and stay down.

I personally won't use a .22lr on yotes. I watched one these tough dogs shrug of a 22-250 round that hit the shoulder blade and exploded in the chest cavity. The yote ran for 250 yards. It took a second round in the neck to bring that yote down. I would recommend using the .223 with a vmax projectile.
The more energy on impact, the better.

[10mm-man]

I use a .204. I'm sending a 40gr V-max BoatTail@ 3800 fps. Small caliber so I don't tear up the hide. Super flat tradjectory and has 980/770 ft-lbs of energy at 100/200 yards. If they are standing still, the yotes curl up and fall over. If they are runnin, they pile up real quick. I have never not had one drop and stay down.

I personally won't use a .22lr on yotes. I watched one these tough dogs shrug of a 22-250 round that hit the shoulder blade and exploded in the chest cavity. The yote ran for 250 yards. It took a second round in the neck to bring that yote down. I would recommend using the .223 with a vmax projectile.
The more energy on impact, the better.

OK, GOOD 2 KNOW! I have seen guys (say it was a 22lr) and drop a yote at 50 yards. Figured if was that close it would be ok? Thoughts?

[TheBelly]

don't use a .22LR.

I really don't like yotes and the like, but I don't want an animal to suffer.

clean, ethical kill. That's why I use a 6.8

[10mm-man]

don't use a .22LR.

I really don't like yotes and the like, but I don't want an animal to suffer.

clean, ethical kill. That's why I use a 6.8

Yea, I hear ya! I agree... maybe the 12 gauge, seen people take them with those.... or I guess I will just take the 223 out.

I have been looking for a new rifle just not sure what caliber to get??

[TRnCO]

some good info. posted already. I also call them a lot, average over 50 per winter, and I also would never go calling with any of the rim fire cartridges. Just not enough umph to do the job consistantly.
I used hand calls for the first 20 years of my calling and have now switched to using almost only ecalls. If money is an issue, hand calls do alright, but where the ecall shines is volume, placement, sound selection. About any hand call on the market will work. When you use a hand call just be sure to inflict as much emotion into the distress sounds as you possibly can. You're trying to immitate a dieing critter after all, so don't be shy.
A lot of volume isn't necassary, but if the wind is blowing or if you want to reach into the next county, it comes in handy.
The placement of the ecall is like having a buddy with you. You tell him to "sit over there, up wind of me, and I'll sit over here and shoot clean up as they swing down wind of you." In other words, you can use the ecall like to your advantage. In general, coyotes will end up downwind of the sound source. Not always, but usually.
The sound libraries that are available on the ecalls these days are darn near endless. The realizm of the sounds is unbeatable. And although it doesn't seem naturual, you can turn on an ecall and leave it on and call plenty of coyotes. They aren't smart enough to know that a rabbit can't scream for 15 minutes none stop. And matter of fact, if I'm hunting with someone that is carrying a shotgun, I will place that person near the call and turn it on and leave it on. More times then not, a coyote will come non-stop to the caller that is left to play constantly. Seen it many times.
FoxPro is the leader in the ecall market. They have lots of models to choose from. I'd start there if I were in the market for an ecall.
Coyotes can be found any where and every where in this state. Most are found on the eastern plains. If you call a coyote 1 of 4/5 stands, you're doing alright. If you go a full day without calling one, it happens. Go again the next day and you may call one on eveery other stand. Don't get discourged.

[10mm-man]

some good info. posted already. I also call them a lot, average over 50 per winter, and I also would never go calling with any of the rim fire cartridges. Just not enough umph to do the job consistantly.
I used hand calls for the first 20 years of my calling and have now switched to using almost only ecalls. If money is an issue, hand calls do alright, but where the ecall shines is volume, placement, sound selection. About any hand call on the market will work. When you use a hand call just be sure to inflict as much emotion into the distress sounds as you possibly can. You're trying to immitate a dieing critter after all, so don't be shy.
A lot of volume isn't necassary, but if the wind is blowing or if you want to reach into the next county, it comes in handy.
The placement of the ecall is like having a buddy with you. You tell him to "sit over there, up wind of me, and I'll sit over here and shoot clean up as they swing down wind of you." In other words, you can use the ecall like to your advantage. In general, coyotes will end up downwind of the sound source. Not always, but usually.
The sound libraries that are available on the ecalls these days are darn near endless. The realizm of the sounds is unbeatable. And although it doesn't seem naturual, you can turn on an ecall and leave it on and call plenty of coyotes. They aren't smart enough to know that a rabbit can't scream for 15 minutes none stop. And matter of fact, if I'm hunting with someone that is carrying a shotgun, I will place that person near the call and turn it on and leave it on. More times then not, a coyote will come non-stop to the caller that is left to play constantly. Seen it many times.
FoxPro is the leader in the ecall market. They have lots of models to choose from. I'd start there if I were in the market for an ecall.
Coyotes can be found any where and every where in this state. Most are found on the eastern plains. If you call a coyote 1 of 4/5 stands, you're doing alright. If you go a full day without calling one, it happens. Go again the next day and you may call one on eveery other stand. Don't get discourged.

Man thank you for taking the time to answer some of my questions! I appreciate your and others comments very much! I am excited to get out and get yote w/ my boy. NO RIM FIRE for sure.......

I am currently selling some items to get an electric call and glad you shed some light on it for me. Thank you!

We are going out tonight to find a place or two were we might be able to set up. I have the eastern plains are good but I am not ready to go ask a farmer if i can hunt there land. I hate rejection and not sure yet what exactly to say? With that said I will be in NF land....

If any of you ever want to come show us how it's done, (or let us tag along) please let me know!

[Song Dog]

If your scouting out an area, do your homework. Pay attention to food sources such as p-dog towns, rodents and rabbits. Be a tracker and take notice of tracks in the area. Those tracks will tell you how many, where they come from and where the yotes go. Plan out your setup before you get on stand. Figure out their most likely avenue of approach and set your stand up accordingly. Remember that yotes are opportunistic hunters. They want to work the least amount for the easiest meal possible. And that will control the way they approach your call. They would much rather trot accross an open field to get to their meal, rather than bust brush. But there are always exceptions to that. Work the land when you go hunting. Don't skyline yourself when moving into position. Stay low and try to make as little noise as possible. Like I said, yotes can hear, see and smell very well as with most predators. Even it your stand is ontop of a hill with alot of cover, work the wind and also the terrain, even if you have to walk halfway around the hill to approach your stand.

I will try to set something up with some of the land owners I work with to bring you out and get you on some yotes. The areas where I hunt are abundant with yotes, foxes and bobcat. I took a bobcat, 6 foxes, and 40 or so yotes off one property last year.

[10mm-man]

If your scouting out an area, do your homework. Pay attention to food sources such as p-dog towns, rodents and rabbits. Be a tracker and take notice of tracks in the area. Those tracks will tell you how many, where they come from and where the yotes go. Plan out your setup before you get on stand. Figure out their most likely avenue of approach and set your stand up accordingly. Remember that yotes are opportunistic hunters. They want to work the least amount for the easiest meal possible. And that will control the way they approach your call. They would much rather trot accross an open field to get to their meal, rather than bust brush. But there are always exceptions to that. Work the land when you go hunting. Don't skyline yourself when moving into position. Stay low and try to make as little noise as possible. Like I said, yotes can hear, see and smell very well as with most predators. Even it your stand is ontop of a hill with alot of cover, work the wind and also the terrain, even if you have to walk halfway around the hill to approach your stand.

I will try to set something up with some of the land owners I work with to bring you out and get you on some yotes. The areas where I hunt are abundant with yotes, foxes and bobcat. I took a bobcat, 6 foxes, and 40 or so yotes off one property last year.

Thanks for all the help! I haven't been much of a hunter the last 9 years. i have had my son since he was 8months old and couldn't wait until he got older so we could go hunt. Now is that time and he really loves the thrill of hunting, he has an itchy trigger finger and can't wait until he can hunt. Right now he knows I have to down it and he is ok with that. he is really eager to take his hunter safety course and I am sure once we get on em he will be even more excited.

I appreciate the offer of bringing us out and if there is any way I can help out let me know. I wouldn't mind throwing in on the cost of the hunt. Please do let us know!

Thanks,