No Gun Policies

[brutal]

Which is a selfish, unprincipled, hypocritical position to take (don't violate my rights, but it's OK if I violate yours), but we've already beaten that dead horse several times.

O2

[edit: I hadn't seen this until now or I would have had the same response.]

I hope you're being sarcastic.

In what manner precisely would I have violated your rights by exercising my legal right to carry?

In the state of Colorado, the signage is MEANINGLESS and I have no legal obligation to obey it. My only obligation is to vacate the premises if asked to do so by management or ownership - for any circumstance.

I do also take serious offense to being labeled "unprincipled."

[Shiro]

+1 brutal, it is in no way hypocritical, those signs are meaningless, and contradictory, if you're walking with a gun, do you really want someone to leave it in say, a bush outside, rather than on their person?

[Squeeze]

When I see the "No Firearms" signs I just laugh and walk right on in. Which is one more reason I say conceal-carry is far superior to open-carry. If it's concealed, it's concealed...period. I'm choosing to not be a victim because of some garbage policy. Now, that being said, I do my hardest to not do business at places which don't support my 2nd Amendment right.

[Aloha_Shooter]

[edit: I hadn't seen this until now or I would have had the same response.]

I hope you're being sarcastic.

In what manner precisely would I have violated your rights by exercising my legal right to carry?

In the state of Colorado, the signage is MEANINGLESS and I have no legal obligation to obey it. My only obligation is to vacate the premises if asked to do so by management or ownership - for any circumstance.

I do also take serious offense to being labeled "unprincipled."

While I support the right to carry, you're being obtuse here. You violate the property owners rights by carrying despite his/her expressed wish that you not do so on his/her property. In the state of Colorado, the sign is NOT meaningless, it is an expression of their desired conduct on their property and you DO have the same obligation to obey that as you do a "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service" sign at a store or restaurant. Sure, there are no criminal penalties for violating their property rights until you refuse to leave the property when asked to do so but that doesn't take away from the fact that you are violating their private property rights.

Now, if you want to say you are engaging in civil disobedience, that's fine. The history of civil disobedience is one of breaking rules and even laws in the pursuit of a greater good (as long as you're willing to abide by the consequences like being asked to leave or even being banned from the property) -- but it IS a violation of the owners' rights.

[glock21]

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[brutal]

While I support the right to carry, you're being obtuse here. You violate the property owners rights by carrying despite his/her expressed wish that you not do so on his/her property. In the state of Colorado, the sign is NOT meaningless, it is an expression of their desired conduct on their property and you DO have the same obligation to obey that as you do a "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service" sign at a store or restaurant. Sure, there are no criminal penalties for violating their property rights until you refuse to leave the property when asked to do so but that doesn't take away from the fact that you are violating their private property rights.

Now, if you want to say you are engaging in civil disobedience, that's fine. The history of civil disobedience is one of breaking rules and even laws in the pursuit of a greater good (as long as you're willing to abide by the consequences like being asked to leave or even being banned from the property) -- but it IS a violation of the owners' rights.

In a way, I see your point. For the sake of argument then, let's just label me "disobedient" as I will continue to CC except where specifically prohibited by law.

From my point of view, the property owner has no right to deny me the right to defend myself, just as the government, or any other person, has no right to tell me how many rounds I can use to defend myself. I can then either chose to ignore their, in my opinion, ill informed decision to prohibit firearms on their property, or chose not to patronize them. I made my choice and I stand by it.

[3beansalad]

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Just another in the very long list of reasons not to go the Chuck E Cheese's

[Squeeze]

Just another in the very long list of reasons not to go the Chuck E Cheese's

Although, one good reason to go to Chuck-E-Cheese - if you're considering having more than one child. Go there on a Saturday around noon. You will want to leave and go buy a dog.