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    ChunkyMonkey, I tried to send you a PM with a question, but your inbox is full.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    Awesome.
    Before I get another text from other members on this... That picture is actually a concrete aquaponic system. It's still within self sustained survivability.. Less tin foily.
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    So... I'm guessing you don't want a PM from me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tactical_2012 View Post
    I have been thinking about this lately and I think it depends on where your bugout location is located. I myself plan on staying put as I live on 25 acres in the woods and am not visible from the roadway. I have over the last couple of months have collected some supplies when i was out at auctions and fleamarket such as 100' of 4' chain link fencing, about 800+ sand bags empty of course, couple sets of window security bars, good amount of good quality chain, 2 rolls of barbed wire, tons of pad locks, couple sheets of 1/2" thick steel. I figured these supplies could help with some fortifications. Anyone else besides my parnoid self thought of this?
    These are all good things to have around, and may well be useful if the SHTF. But I tend to subscribe to the "hide in plain sight" philosophy myself.

    Just curious, where did you get 800 empty sandbags and the sheet steel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omicron View Post
    These are all good things to have around, and may well be useful if the SHTF. But I tend to subscribe to the "hide in plain sight" philosophy myself.

    Just curious, where did you get 800 empty sandbags and the sheet steel?
    Uline is always a great source for those kind of stuffs... e.g. http://www.uline.com/BL_5565/Sand-Ba...FWQDQAodUiAAig
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey View Post
    Uline is always a great source for those kind of stuffs... e.g. http://www.uline.com/BL_5565/Sand-Ba...FWQDQAodUiAAig
    As someone interested in starting an online retail business... Uline is an amazing resource.
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    Picked the stuff up at the flea market. I plan on hiding in plain site but can still fortify. I will use the sand bags and sheet steel inside residence and barn. I was thinking that i could use the chain link on inside of the windows to help stop intruders. I will also be utilizing a secret escape tunnel in case I need to evacuate then move to my secondary location. Thoughts or ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tactical_2012 View Post
    Picked the stuff up at the flea market. I plan on hiding in plain site but can still fortify. I will use the sand bags and sheet steel inside residence and barn. I was thinking that i could use the chain link on inside of the windows to help stop intruders. I will also be utilizing a secret escape tunnel in case I need to evacuate then move to my secondary location. Thoughts or ideas?

    Sewer pipe and or precast concrete. Those large concrete sections are small arms resistant able to run through. AND if placed correctly can be used as storage or extra bunkers. With pre planning you can set up your own shelter by pouring it your self. There are places that also deal in recycled concrete, this would give you a moderately fortified bunker area.
    Give some consideration to the stainless 3' diameter lines out there. Not a run through in hurry, but you would still have emergency outlets as needed.
    Here are a few links for both fiberglass and concrete.

    http://www.stormsaferoom.com/belowground/index.htm
    http://protectionshelters.com/storm-...s/above-ground
    http://vaughnconcreteproducts.com/storm-shelters1
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    Quote Originally Posted by tactical_2012 View Post
    Picked the stuff up at the flea market. I plan on hiding in plain site but can still fortify. I will use the sand bags and sheet steel inside residence and barn. I was thinking that i could use the chain link on inside of the windows to help stop intruders. I will also be utilizing a secret escape tunnel in case I need to evacuate then move to my secondary location. Thoughts or ideas?
    Its probably a good idea to always think to yourself, "If I wanted to get in here, how/what would I do?" Also, an evac situation could be potential to leave important things behind, so be careful and plan accordingly. Some type of surveilance might be a good idea. At least that way you can be sure of the situation and what you're up against.

    Something to think about though: Say you've evacuated to your 2nd locale and you find.... someone else already there. Do you have a plan for that yet?



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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    Sewer pipe and or precast concrete. Those large concrete sections are small arms resistant able to run through. AND if placed correctly can be used as storage or extra bunkers. With pre planning you can set up your own shelter by pouring it your self. There are places that also deal in recycled concrete, this would give you a moderately fortified bunker area.
    Give some consideration to the stainless 3' diameter lines out there. Not a run through in hurry, but you would still have emergency outlets as needed.
    Here are a few links for both fiberglass and concrete.

    http://www.stormsaferoom.com/belowground/index.htm
    http://protectionshelters.com/storm-...s/above-ground
    http://vaughnconcreteproducts.com/storm-shelters1
    I'd like to add that a permanent storm shelter is finance-able by FHA in your mortgage. Whether you want the big GOV to know about it or not, it's a different story. FHA 203b is up to $5000 for internal safe room (has to be within the dwelling area) or FHA 203k which can include underground shelter.

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