Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
You say I'm thinking in black and white, but you present an argument that is plainly black and white- social programs does not make a country socialist. 1930's/40's Germany was a socialist country. 1917-1989 Russia was a communist country. Norway has many social programs, but they are not exactly an extreme example (like Nazi Germany) of a socialist nation. Fire Departments, roads, etc. here are not socialist, you must be obsessed with your 4th point of contact, because your head is all the way up it!

ETA: Pugnac posted as I was typing out my response, but I find it utterly hilarious that we both think nynco's head is up his ass...
Bingo not exactly an extreme example. Just like Obama is not an extreme communist or "socialist" like you fear. He is to the right of damn near every politician in the Scandinavian Countries on economic issues and most all social issues. Norway has almost twice the entreprenuer rate as the US. Seems those "socialist" "commies" up there are more capitalist than we are.