Ready to throw her under the bus?

[PugnacAutMortem]

You have to go back 3 levels because that far back you stopped engaging in any sort of relevant conversation. That is when you decided to use personal attacks and spurn using facts. So as a famous right wing politician said... "Blame yourself"

Do you know why I stopped attempting to engage you? Because it's abso-fucking-lutely useless. There's no engaging you, it's just like throwing shit at a teflon wall. Not a damn thing is going to stick...

You really do eat this shit up don't you? Shame on me for feeding into your psychotic desire for negative attention. Shame, shame on me.

[Ronin13]

Ronin the reason the payment was so high was because it was Hawaii. 36K there is poverty. I brought up the problem with wages because it is intertwined. If a person regardless of skill level can not live off an honest job then what do you want them to do? Die? No one has the right to have a business let alone the right to incorporate. If those business can not afford to pay a living wage then they should go out of business and I am sure another business will come along and fill the demand and do it just fine. Costco proves that the Wallmart idea is wrong.

No one has the right to have a business? What is this? Soviet Russia. Whatever you say Comrade. If I choose to pay an uneducated, unskilled worker minimum wage, that's legal, and it's what many businesses do... hell, my first job was $5.50/hr back when minimum wage was $5.15/hr. Sure I couldn't live on my own with that kind of pay unless I took on two jobs, but I was 15 at the time and I earned every penny to save up for my first car. If someone were to come to me, if I were a business owner, and ask for a job, and I looked at their work history and education and they had next to nothing of either, I would offer them an entry level position at just above minimum wage. Am I wrong for that? No. I would prefer someone with either education, or experience, or both. If that didn't happen, I'd give the entry level employee the opportunity to work and show me that they were worth hiring, and over time I'd give them raises commensurate to how well they performed and benefited my business.

[nynco]

No Ronin no one has the right to incorporate or have an LLC if they do not play by the law or the rules. We need to change the law to make it so an honest days work = a living wage. The min wage of the 1960s would be 16 dollars in todays dollars. Just think how much better people would be if that was the min wage. Our economy would boom from all the demand increase.

[Wiggity]

There sure is a lot of herpin' and derpin' going on in this thread

[RMAC757]

No one has the right to have a business? What is this? Soviet Russia. Whatever you say Comrade. If I choose to pay an uneducated, unskilled worker minimum wage, that's legal, and it's what many businesses do... hell, my first job was $5.50/hr back when minimum wage was $5.15/hr. Sure I couldn't live on my own with that kind of pay unless I took on two jobs, but I was 15 at the time and I earned every penny to save up for my first car. If someone were to come to me, if I were a business owner, and ask for a job, and I looked at their work history and education and they had next to nothing of either, I would offer them an entry level position at just above minimum wage. Am I wrong for that? No. I would prefer someone with either education, or experience, or both. If that didn't happen, I'd give the entry level employee the opportunity to work and show me that they were worth hiring, and over time I'd give them raises commensurate to how well they performed and benefited my business.

Dude you spend all day in your dads office posting on this website. You're not exactly a shining example of someone who's pay is commensurate with the amount of work they do.

[PugnacAutMortem]

Dude you spend all day in your dads office posting on this website. You're not exactly a shining example of someone who's pay is commensurate with the amount of work they do.

Who says you have to work every waking second of every day? If my job only requires me to get x done every single day...and I can get that done in 4 hours instead of 9...then whats the problem with that? Yours is a poor example, and that's actually not even what Ronin said. If I can get more work done than someone else in less time than they do it...then my performance is higher than theirs.

[RMAC757]

Who says you have to work every waking second of every day? If my job only requires me to get x done every single day...and I can get that done in 4 hours instead of 9...then whats the problem with that? Yours is a poor example, and that's actually not even what Ronin said. If I can get more work done than someone else in less time than they do it...then my performance is higher than theirs.

Stay here longer than 30 days proby and see how much work Ronin does at his dads office

[nynco]

Who says you have to work every waking second of every day? If my job only requires me to get x done every single day...and I can get that done in 4 hours instead of 9...then whats the problem with that? Yours is a poor example, and that's actually not even what Ronin said. If I can get more work done than someone else in less time than they do it...then my performance is higher than theirs.

Agreed

And I have no clue about Ronin and his work stuff. That is his business and I have no reason to berate him for it.

[spqrzilla]

Ronin I never endorsed the others like you think. I think they are all full of garbage for the most part. But I think the biggest pile of dung is Faux News. I try to get my news from as many sources as possible and look for facts as best I can.

You attack Fox News and then support your arguments with Huffington Post. And that's just one example of your continuous dishonest rhetoric. I've shown other examples in this and other threads where you misrepresent, outright fabricate and when caught, you shuck and jive. You do not "look for facts" at all but repeat long discredited spin and outright lies.

[nynco]

No Ronin no one has the right to incorporate or have an LLC if they do not play by the law or the rules. We need to change the law to make it so an honest days work = a living wage. The min wage of the 1960s would be 16 dollars in todays dollars. Just think how much better people would be if that was the min wage. Our economy would boom from all the demand increase.

Also to add an addendum. If someone wants to work without the gov protections of an LLC or corporate form, but instead as a soul proprietor without any business entity, then I think they should not be forced to pay people the min wage. They are not operating under an artificial gov created entity. They have the right to do business as they please. But that also puts A LOT MORE RISK on themselves. There is a reason incorporation was created. In order to enjoy those benefits, those businesses/people have to follow the law. One law is the min wage. Which needs to be increased to reflect to true cost of living for an employee. Walmart employees are paid so bad that in many cases they are on many forms of welfare to make up for what the company does not pay. That company is costing taxpayers a lot more than it is worth.