Ready to throw her under the bus?

[nynco]

All the happiest countries in the world are what you would call socialist. Seems to be something is not as you think. Guns mean nothing to this debate. Totally unrelated subject. Example it is legal and encouraged to use a silencer in Scandinavian countries all of which are what you would label as socialist. The insane right wing terrorist shooter of Norway had assault weapons. So they are not banned in socialist countries. Stop buying into the black and white world view that all socialism is bad. Because I think our socialist roads, fire depts and COUNTLESS other things are what makes this a great nation. We need more of that.

[PugnacAutMortem]

All the happiest countries in the world are what you would call socialist. Seems to be something is not as you think. Guns mean nothing to this debate. Totally unrelated subject. Example it is legal and encouraged to use a silencer in Scandinavian countries all of which are what you would label as socialist. The insane right wing terrorist shooter of Norway had assault weapons. So they are not banned in socialist countries. Stop buying into the black and white world view that all socialism is bad. Because I think our socialist roads, fire depts and COUNTLESS other things are what makes this a great nation. We need more of that.

Ok I'm gonna hafta call bullshit on that. Come on man...put down the MSNBC talking points pamphlets and take your head out of your ass. There hasn't been a successful socialist nor communist country in the history of the world. You can argue all you want...and any data supporting your opinion is too short-sighted to show the real picture.

[Ronin13]

All the happiest countries in the world are what you would call socialist. Seems to be something is not as you think. Guns mean nothing to this debate. Totally unrelated subject. Example it is legal and encouraged to use a silencer in Scandinavian countries all of which are what you would label as socialist. The insane right wing terrorist shooter of Norway had assault weapons. So they are not banned in socialist countries. Stop buying into the black and white world view that all socialism is bad. Because I think our socialist roads, fire depts and COUNTLESS other things are what makes this a great nation. We need more of that.

You say I'm thinking in black and white, but you present an argument that is plainly black and white- social programs does not make a country socialist. 1930's/40's Germany was a socialist country. 1917-1989 Russia was a communist country. Norway has many social programs, but they are not exactly an extreme example (like Nazi Germany) of a socialist nation. Fire Departments, roads, etc. here are not socialist, you must be obsessed with your 4th point of contact, because your head is all the way up it!

ETA: Pugnac posted as I was typing out my response, but I find it utterly hilarious that we both think nynco's head is up his ass...

[nynco]

You say I'm thinking in black and white, but you present an argument that is plainly black and white- social programs does not make a country socialist. 1930's/40's Germany was a socialist country. 1917-1989 Russia was a communist country. Norway has many social programs, but they are not exactly an extreme example (like Nazi Germany) of a socialist nation. Fire Departments, roads, etc. here are not socialist, you must be obsessed with your 4th point of contact, because your head is all the way up it!

ETA: Pugnac posted as I was typing out my response, but I find it utterly hilarious that we both think nynco's head is up his ass...

Bingo not exactly an extreme example. Just like Obama is not an extreme communist or "socialist" like you fear. He is to the right of damn near every politician in the Scandinavian Countries on economic issues and most all social issues. Norway has almost twice the entreprenuer rate as the US. Seems those "socialist" "commies" up there are more capitalist than we are.