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    Quote Originally Posted by sroz View Post
    I didn't make the statement & never said we should. I'm certainly not aware of any Obama has offered up. Are you?
    No, and sorry if it came across in an accusatory fashion. That was a question to the forum: what cuts in entitlements should we make? How much in total do we need to cut?

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    What he actually has proposed as a "compromise" is massive tax increases now, with "possible" reductions in spending increases "next year". Utter bullshit. If he gets the tax increases he is asking for, the congress will simply increase spending to exceed the increase in revenue as they have done since the damn income tax came into being. The only way they are EVER going to start paying down the debt is to have a statutory mandate (Amendment?) that makes a deficit illegal, perhaps by making blanket cuts across the board, with NOTHING untouchable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    What he actually has proposed as a "compromise" is massive tax increases now, with "possible" reductions in spending increases "next year". Utter bullshit. If he gets the tax increases he is asking for, the congress will simply increase spending to exceed the increase in revenue as they have done since the damn income tax came into being. The only way they are EVER going to start paying down the debt is to have a statutory mandate (Amendment?) that makes a deficit illegal, perhaps by making blanket cuts across the board, with NOTHING untouchable.
    I share your disdain of likely Congressional actions. How do we implement across the board cuts? For entitlements, does everyone get 20% let, or do we cut 20% of the recipients from the roles? How we cut defense spending? Are we going to impose pay cuts on the serving military? Do we reduce the numbers of the military, reduce the amount of equipment? How we keep politics out of the decision? You know that the Senators and Congresscritters that represent districts with major Defense contractors will lobby for those constituents. I'm afraid that the servicemen and women won't have that powerful and a lobby and will lose benefits to keep the cash flowing to the major contractors in this scenario.

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    So. . . I'm just curious: Does anyone here have an employer that pays for your vacations? Or is that just reserved for those in the highest of offices and without the approval of those footing the bill (taxpayers)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teufelhund View Post
    So. . . I'm just curious: Does anyone here have an employer that pays for your vacations? Or is that just reserved for those in the highest of offices and without the approval of those footing the bill (taxpayers)?
    I get paid vacations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    I get paid vacations.
    And they pay all the expenses too? Sweet! Are you guys hiring?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teufelhund View Post
    And they pay all the expenses too? Sweet! Are you guys hiring?
    Don't I wish. We're hiring in Taiwan and Shanghai. How's your Mandarin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teufelhund View Post
    So. . . I'm just curious: Does anyone here have an employer that pays for your vacations? Or is that just reserved for those in the highest of offices and without the approval of those footing the bill (taxpayers)?
    Yeah many employers do for their execs and they then write it off so the tax payers then subsidize their travels. They go to conferences in Cancun for some stupid thing and attend a class or two and then write the whole trip off as a business expense. Happens all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nynco View Post
    Yeah many employers do for their execs and they then write it off so the tax payers then subsidize their travels. They go to conferences in Cancun for some stupid thing and attend a class or two and then write the whole trip off as a business expense. Happens all the time.
    You so have no fucking clue about the business world. Execs and sales folks are almost always performance based and get perks when they hit their numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nynco View Post
    Yeah many employers do for their execs and they then write it off so the tax payers then subsidize their travels. They go to conferences in Cancun for some stupid thing and attend a class or two and then write the whole trip off as a business expense. Happens all the time.
    I'm going to China in a week. That expense is a tax-deductible expense for my employer. Yes, some trips are boon-doggles. They all aren't, though.

    Here's a clue: No one here can fix the tax code. Quit posting here about it. Write your representative and Senator.

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