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    Quote Originally Posted by whitewalrus View Post
    I use lee dies for 9mm. They don?t seem to size as aggressive as other brands that I have tried in the past or friends have. I do not lube the cases when using the 650 or Hornady LNL AP. Granted you have a lot more going on with the 1050/1100.
    Echoing Hoser - not *needed* for carbide; but I easily tack on +50% production by lubing on my LNL AP or SDB. I kind of hate one shot as a lube, though, so I do the Lanolin sprays.
    9mm - because they don't make a 9.1mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not_A_Llama View Post
    That bucket is.. a real accomplishment. Wow. I was proud of my couple 8 pound powder jugs of dead primers here. I'm 3D printing out a primer chute to direct mine downward now.

    I upped my case lube regimen, which has helped with the force required. I plan to try a Lee die off my old press, because I've never had primer get sucked back in, and the force seems lower to me.

    In 9mm: I will have to research who has the shortest 147gr coated bullet, or switch to 124gr - my brass "herd" now has a large quantity of thick-walled and internally-stepped casings. Blue and Bayou 147gr bullets bulge out the walls, leading to chambering failures, even at 1.160" OAL, which is about as long as I can go and still assure reliable feeding in my mags.
    Oddly enough a 223 case with the base cut off fits that spent primer hole snug, with a tap of a soft hammer, enough it will never fall out. Mine had 100K on it and the oly time that case was out of there was for 10K pm's



    Quote Originally Posted by Hoser View Post
    Try Hornady One Shot. You will be amazed how much easier it is. Trust me.
    Absolutely.

    While not a fan of 1 shot for rifle, It's a great lube for pistol brass. Spray on, size & load. There's none of that light film you get with dillon case lube, or the home made stuff.
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    Question about the 1050 and 1100. Are the powder drops that they use any better than those for the 550? I have persistent issues getting a consistent measure of powder. I typically see +- .1 gn variation sometimes .2 on some powders. The marketing materials for the 1100 say it'll produce match grade ammo but wonder if that's true if it doesn't throw a consistent amount of powder like the 550.

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    Quote Originally Posted by izzy View Post
    Are the powder drops that they use any better than those for the 550? I have persistent issues getting a consistent measure of powder. I typically see +- .1 gn variation sometimes .2 on some powders. The marketing materials for the 1100 say it'll produce match grade ammo but wonder if that's true if it doesn't throw a consistent amount of powder like the 550.
    As far as I know they're all the same ignoring a powder bar return design change about a decade or more ago.

    I think the Dillon Powder Measure Tips thread <-(Click this) may be of some help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O2HeN2 View Post
    As far as I know they're all the same ignoring a powder bar return design change about a decade or more ago.

    I think the Dillon Powder Measure Tips thread <-(Click this) may be of some help.

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    Sweet, going to read that one now. Thank you.

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    Looks like the variation of +- 0.1 that I'm getting is "good" from reading that thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by izzy View Post
    Looks like the variation of +- 0.1 that I'm getting is "good" from reading that thread.
    Yeah, so you really don’t want to be throwing “maximum” charges, at least I don’t, only when I am weighing every charge

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    Quote Originally Posted by izzy View Post
    Looks like the variation of +- 0.1 that I'm getting is "good" from reading that thread.
    A resilient accuracy node will probably be much wider than 0.1gr, so this (in my view) shouldn’t matter.
    9mm - because they don't make a 9.1mm

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    When I'm loading pistol rounds I don't really care so much about the 0.1. With 223 I care more especially when I see higher standard deviation numbers on the chronograph.

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    What kind of effect on target have you seen, chasing SD?

    Particularly with OCW-type load development, I've noticed that SD doesn't really have much correlation with group size (I did find better correlation with ES, which makes sense, given that most people don't measure group size as mean radius). As an overall trend, higher charges/pressures produce lower SD, but my velocity loads don't correlate with my accuracy loads.

    It's so pronounced in my experience that I might even define an accurate load/node as one which is insensitive to SD. Which implies to me that the negative impact of poor node selection is far more detrimental than the impact of varying velocities.

    FWIW: I find my Hornady measures are more accurate with Varget & friends than Dillon.
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    9mm - because they don't make a 9.1mm

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