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    Since a class is already required, I would prefer it to be an interactive class to be able to address questions and allow the instructor to assess the student. Not that I have heard of it happening but an instructor could decline to give someone their certificate.
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    Default Re: Do you oppose Senate Bill 13-195? If so, why?

    Quote Originally Posted by kraven251 View Post
    Since a class is already required, I would prefer it to be an interactive class to be able to address questions and allow the instructor to assess the student. Not that I have heard of it happening but an instructor could decline to give someone their certificate.
    If the requirement must exist, I prefer that it be as accessible and inexpensive as possible. The requirement for training, background check etc. is simply a coat tax. I can carry my handgun openly but if I put my coat over it, I must pay a fee/tax.

    I believe that anyone willing to carry a firearm is best off taking a thorough training class but certainly do not feel it is a requirement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacklabel View Post
    If the requirement must exist, I prefer that it be as accessible and inexpensive as possible. The requirement for training, background check etc. is simply a coat tax. I can carry my handgun openly but if I put my coat over it, I must pay a fee/tax.

    I believe that anyone willing to carry a firearm is best off taking a thorough training class but certainly do not feel it is a requirement.
    Agree completely.
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    Default Re: Do you oppose Senate Bill 13-195? If so, why?

    Quote Originally Posted by WETWRKS View Post
    I don't believe the founding fathers cared if a weapon was carried concealed or openly. They said that your right to be armed shall not be infringed. That includes in public...concealed or openly.
    This, whatever bullshit brainwashed concept of the 2nd these Libs have given to some of the alleged pro 2a folks is ridiculous!

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    re open carry: Now that Deadly Weapon has been redefined, be vary careful how you answer the cop that comes to see you after the MWAG call. You might be disturbing the peace.

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    honestly, I don't think there should be any training requirement. There isn't to own a gun. There isn't to open carry. There isn't to shoot at a range, to shoot in the woods (except hunting), to defend your family or your home.

    If these absolutely HAS to be training, then I think it should be standardized, in person, with live fire and show the applicable laws and pathways to insurance, what lawyers to contact in the event of an incident, how to work with the police in a contact situation etc.

    yes, those of us on here see a ton of info from the multiple instructors, but the average Joe who doesn't sit on here all the time might not get the best instructor, or does a quick online class and doesn't pay attention to the videos or googles any questions on a test.

    The best proof though that nothing needs to change is the simple facts and data. I can't recall any concealed carry permit holders that have gone on shooting sprees, that have got into severe trouble, or really anything that has made the headlines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    I can't recall any concealed carry permit holders that have gone on shooting sprees, that have got into severe trouble, or really anything that has made the headlines.
    George Zimmerman

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    Quote Originally Posted by cysoto View Post
    George Zimmerman
    If some dude starts beating the shit out of me and I am in fear of my life, I'd shoot him, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cysoto View Post
    George Zimmerman
    Only because the media pushed that bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fmedges View Post
    Only because the media pushed that bullshit.
    I was only refreshing Sniper7's memory when he said that he didn't recall the names of any CCW holders who "made the headlines" but fine, then how about: George Sodini, Paul Merhige, Christopher Speight or Michael McClendon (amongst others)? All of these folks were CCW holders at the time the committed their murders and I am willing to bet that you have never heard their names before today.

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