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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    I wasn't "just" being a smartass. I was pointing out that, as long as we're dreaming about a perfect world (in terms of training our children in schools as you suggested...which ain't gonna happen) we might as well carry it a little further. When I'm "just" being a smartass, you'll know.
    I think it is pretty apparent what you were doing. It comes across just like those who say "oh the 2A says you can have an AR... why don't you just get a tank while you are at it!"

    I said the point was extreme. And I was right... so extreme, people can't even discuss it without getting all silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brobar View Post
    I think it is pretty apparent what you were doing. It comes across just like those who say "oh the 2A says you can have an AR... why don't you just get a tank while you are at it!"

    I said the point was extreme. And I was right... so extreme, people can't even discuss it without getting all silly.
    Right at this time, with a critical Senate vote coming TOMORROW - there is a serious question about dedicating energy to a hypothetical with almost ZERO chance of ever happening.

    For your suggestion of mandated firearm training in school to be considered, there would need to first be widespread acceptance of the need for such training. That is the reason I referenced cstone's post about procreation - and procreation leading to mandated sex education.

    Do you really think the prerequisite of UNIVERSAL ACCEPTANCE that our youth need firearm training has a glimpse of a chance of happening?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DHC View Post
    Right at this time, with a critical Senate vote coming TOMORROW - there is a serious question about dedicating energy to a hypothetical with almost ZERO chance of ever happening.

    For your suggestion of mandated firearm training in school to be considered, there would need to first be widespread acceptance of the need for such training. That is the reason I referenced cstone's post about procreation - and procreation leading to mandated sex education.

    Do you really think the prerequisite of UNIVERSAL ACCEPTANCE that our youth need firearm training has a glimpse of a chance of happening?
    Not with the attitude that I see some people approaching it with... no... not a chance in hell. That is why I said it is TOO EXTREME for people on here. I'm of the mindset that rights are not without responsibilities and actions are not without consequences... crazy talk... right? So I think people should be taught, about those responsibilities and the consequences that come along with being irresponsible, at a young age! People don't like that kind of thinking. Let's stop talking about it and change the subject by acting all silly. I know exactly where we stand today and yes, you are right, with people's mindset today... there is not a glimpse of that happening. We should probably just shut up about it and not even discuss it.

    how about that snow (or lack thereof) we got yesterday?

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    Yes, this is a stupid piece of legislation that does nothing to stop or prevent crime... How does WY, AZ, AK, and VT handle this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by brobar View Post
    Not with the attitude that I see some people approaching it with... no... not a chance in hell. That is why I said it is TOO EXTREME for people on here. I'm of the mindset that rights are not without responsibilities and actions are not without consequences... crazy talk... right? So I think people should be taught, about those responsibilities and the consequences that come along with being irresponsible, at a young age! People don't like that kind of thinking. Let's stop talking about it and change the subject by acting all silly. I know exactly where we stand today and yes, you are right, with people's mindset today... there is not a glimpse of that happening. We should probably just shut up about it and not even discuss it.

    how about that snow (or lack thereof) we got yesterday?
    Your a complete idiot.

    Do I agree that firearms training should happen? Sure. I think every parent should teach thier kids to shoot. IN FACT, I believe that we should pass a LAW requiring every single parent- including gay, lesbian, tranny, or undecided- to teach any children in their care how to properly use firearms. Further, we should test and grade these skills on a pass/fail system. Fail, and the kid gets taken away and placed with a parent that CAN teach children the proper use and respect of firearms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwalker460 View Post
    Your a complete idiot.
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    I am gonna to go back on my answer a little bit. It is very important for people to understand the responsibilities that come along with carrying a firearm. I just dont like the part where some politician decides what is best for all. It is kind of the one size fits all mentality.

    What works for one person might not work for the next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brobar View Post
    I think it is pretty apparent what you were doing. It comes across just like those who say "oh the 2A says you can have an AR... why don't you just get a tank while you are at it!"

    I said the point was extreme. And I was right... so extreme, people can't even discuss it without getting all silly.

    The 2A does say that you can have a tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodburbon View Post
    The 2A does say that you can have a tank.
    It's the Mrs. and the HOA parking restrictions that say "No".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    It's the Mrs. and the HOA parking restrictions that say "No".
    I can't afford the ammunition or the JP5 the tank runs on. Don't they get 2 gallons to the mile?

    I feel the same way about automatic weapons. I don't want one, because I can't afford the ammunition. If the GOV did away with the dumb full auto restrictions, I still would only shoot one round at a time.

    Here is another oddity or idiosyncrasy in government regulation. With all of the other noise abatement requirements for motorcycles, cars, airplanes, etc... Why doesn't the government want us all to have suppressors on our rifles? How many ranges have to deal with never ending neighborhood complaints about the noise. If it was easier to obtain and utilize suppressors, some manufacturers might even begin including them as part of a package deal or making models with integrated barrel/suppressors. Think of all the health issues related to hearing loss that would benefit from the voluntary use of easily obtained suppressors.

    Maybe we can convince some progressive legislator that suppressors be taken off the NFA, for the good of the children
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