July 1st 2013 Changes to the Trading Post

[Marlin]

I'm not really sure why the site has determined to police it's members. It never has before.

Just because a bunch of new laws may pass, suddenly the board has to police itself?

I'm now saddened by this than anything else. Were the Germans so quick to turn in those suspected of being Jewish? I suppose so.

Edit: I'm not condoning illegal activities, by any means. What I'm saying is leave it to personal responsibility.

Example: There was never any rule against selling standard capacity magazines to Denver residents. Or requirement of any language thereof.

I'll put it this way; Don't like it, get the fuck out. Simple enough?

[DeusExMachina]

I'll put it this way; Don't like it, get the fuck out. Simple enough?

I see the Nazi Germany comparison wasn't so far off. Awesome attitude. Is this where you threaten to make me leave for starting a discussion on why the site is so eager to jump onto the legislature's lap? Where has the law enforcement policies of the forum been until now? Are we not adult enough to know how to avoid breaking laws?

I can see it now. Some guy forgets to put all the requisit stipulations. In a few months time, this will cause 5 members to jump down his throat about conducting an illegal trade.

[Great-Kazoo]

I see the Nazi Germany comparison wasn't so far off. Awesome attitude. Is this where you threaten to make me leave for starting a discussion on why the site is so eager to jump onto the legislature's lap? Where has the law enforcement policies of the forum been until now? Are we not adult enough to know how to avoid breaking laws?

I can see it now. Some guy forgets to put all the requisit stipulations. In a few months time, this will cause 5 members to jump down his throat about conducting an illegal trade.

There are TP RULES in place. WHICH 20% do not follow now. The hysteria and "connotation" about on lne gun sales combined with a sting operation, could make the MODS / Owners liable and face jail time for facilitating ILLEGAL Sales. It could also under RICO and or the patriot Act have every member Detained, Questioned, Charged and or Imprisoned as an accomplice.
That's the Germany you referred to.

[Goodburbon]

There are TP RULES in place. WHICH 20% do not follow now. The hysteria and "connotation" about on lne gun sales combined with a sting operation, could make the MODS / Owners liable and face jail time for facilitating ILLEGAL Sales. It could also under RICO and or the patriot Act have every member Detained, Questioned, Charged and or Imprisoned as an accomplice.
That's the Germany you referred to.

I havent' seen anything in these bills that could be construed to hold the owners/admins of this site responsible for squat.


I guess the Molon Labe on the back of my new COar15 hat means, (don't worry we've already taken them from ourselves.)

[Marlin]

I see the Nazi Germany comparison wasn't so far off. Awesome attitude. Is this where you threaten to make me leave for starting a discussion on why the site is so eager to jump onto the legislature's lap? Where has the law enforcement policies of the forum been until now? Are we not adult enough to know how to avoid breaking laws?

I can see it now. Some guy forgets to put all the requisit stipulations. In a few months time, this will cause 5 members to jump down his throat about conducting an illegal trade.

Calling me a nazi,, Hmmmmm,, Illinios nazi I hope.. Now granted I would prefer not to have to do this. But, there s certain realities that are coming. And until we can get the criminal acts corrected, I really don't feel like having dorkenlooper sending his jack booted thugs to my door. Now, if you open your own site, and run a free for all in the trade section, feel free. Up until now we haven't found it needed for the "law enforcement policies" to play a major part in any trade conducted from the site. As long as the interested parties did their thing, be just an exchange or, running it through a ffl. Now it seems the way the commies in the state house have written these bs laws, we need to do a little CYA for the site. Now if this is "jumping into the legislatures lap" in your opinion, so be it. If you are just unable to live with this, or think we are caving into the gun grabbers, well the invitation too leave still stands.

[Tinelement]

Totally understand this.

Atleast we are able to keep it open!

I have meet most of our forum members through transactions, which led to BS, which led to shooting, which led to beers, which led to friendships.

[newracer]

Rather than having all that info required in each thread couldn't you just have a sticky with all the conditions? Or even better have a screen that the thread starter must agree to the conditions.

[J]

At this point we want it in each post. But we will discuss your suggestion.

[Danimal]

Thanks for the heads up. Seems reasonable, and we all need to work together to keep in line with all state laws. This is kinda the last nail in the coffin for me staying in Colorado. I started looking for work out of state today, but I guess I will see where that takes me. This fourm has been great to me over the years and it is thanks to mods and admin working their asses of to keep this place up and running. Thanks again for all you guys do.

[th3w01f]

Ok, this is about as liberal as I go but I think it's also a good idea for us to look out (to a certain extent) for each other and people who are new to firearms. By having these rules the Mods are not only protecting the site but also protecting some ignorant people from themselves. Just like with NFA there are a lot of what I consider stupid laws that can get you in a lot of trouble very quickly if you haven't done the research.

I know you can't save everyone and if you're stupid enough you deserve it, blah, blah.... but I'd hate to see someone arrested because of a misunderstanding of one of the laws.

For instance, posting a rifle for sale with what looks like a 30rd mag, even if the mag isn't for sale might be enough to get the .gov to harass the seller and the site.

Now before you flame me I think is sucks that it has come to this but it is what it is for the time being.