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    Speaking of collectibles, did anyone jump on the 25th anniversary AE 5 coin silver set that the Mint put out in 2011? The one that sold out in a few hours and crashed their servers all day? They were selling for like $299 and on eBay for over $800 shortly after...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sellersm View Post
    Speaking of collectibles, did anyone jump on the 25th anniversary AE 5 coin silver set that the Mint put out in 2011? The one that sold out in a few hours and crashed their servers all day? They were selling for like $299 and on eBay for over $800 shortly after...
    Bought 2 set of the ANACS MS70.. One went on ebay later on for $1100.
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    I have an opportunity later this week to take a look at my grandfather's coin collection before it is boxed up and picked up by my uncle. Unfortunately, none of it is anything that's headed my way, but anything I should look out for that might be interesting to see? I know they've already located a gold kruggerand and a gold maple leaf, so that's cool. Supposedly the majority of the collection is misc coins. All of it will be pre-1980 when he died and as I've seen parts of it before. I know some is much older. I have a couple of the blue penny books I was given as a child. They're not full, but fun family history. I'm looking forward to hopefully seeing in person the difference between older silver coins and the current stuff.

    I know there's some silver coins or bars in there too, but don't know much beyond that. Supposedly there are boxes and boxes as he was a banker at one point in his life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey View Post
    You actually hit 2 birds w/ one stone by collecting numismatics. Sold my 1986 ngc ms70 1 oz silver eagle... for $670. I have a collection of complete silver eagle.. ms70 and ms69 from 1986-2013. In Bullion, it's only worth $560. Care to estimate the ms70 value?
    The sky's the limit and you've got a terrific thing going as long as you're viewing them as an investment in a stable economy. My point is that if something gives way and the economic environment changes... you will not be able to turn their value in to anything useful, at least not in the short term, and at least not their ACTUAL value. Your kids might someday, assuming they keep them safe and don't swindle them, but for purposes of flexibility and stability irrespective of economic condition, I won't commit that much $ to them...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawin View Post
    The sky's the limit and you've got a terrific thing going as long as you're viewing them as an investment in a stable economy. My point is that if something gives way and the economic environment changes... you will not be able to turn their value in to anything useful, at least not in the short term. Your kids might someday, assuming they keep them safe and don't swindle them, but for purposes of flexibility and stability irrespective of economic condition, I won't commit that much $ to them...
    Understood. In my case, I dont have a penny in stock. All of my IRA is either in properties, silver and gold. I think you misunderstood the whole certified coin thing... because like silver and gold its price increases tremendously during recession and market instability. I also have easier time selling them compare to bullion. For some reason noone wants to buy my bullion at market price, while, I keep buying bullions at market plus premium -- so I am losing real dollar money on bullion.

    As like many of you I dont believe in US$ any longer. However, to me a bullion in the safe is like US$ in the bank.. earning nothing at the inflation rate. This may sound real corny, but I watched rich dad poor dad seminar in 2009, and Robert Kiyosaki convinced me. Part of his teaching is Silver and gold as one of asset classes. We have monthly delivery of silver eagle tube, and few ms70 from NGC. Making tons of gain out of properties and numismatic silver... plus it's not trackable by the big brother hint hint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey View Post
    Understood. In my case, I dont have a penny in stock. All of my IRA is either in properties, silver and gold. I think you misunderstood the whole certified coin thing... because like silver and gold its price increases tremendously during recession and market instability. I also have easier time selling them compare to bullion. For some reason noone wants to buy my bullion at market price, while, I keep buying bullions at market plus premium -- so I am losing real dollar money on bullion.

    As like many of you I dont believe in US$ any longer. However, to me a bullion in the safe is like US$ in the bank.. earning nothing at the inflation rate. This may sound real corny, but I watched rich dad poor dad seminar in 2009, and Robert Kiyosaki convinced me. Part of his teaching is Silver and gold as one of asset classes. We have monthly delivery of silver eagle tube, and few ms70 from NGC. Making tons of gain out of properties and numismatic silver... plus it's not trackable by the big brother hint hint.
    Doesn't sound corny at all man, I think you're doing a great job. You've found a method that you fully understand and are doing well at. I completely see what you mean with regard to the numismatics as long as you're actively realizing those gains, not just calculating them on paper. I suspect you are capitalizing on the gains too, you're no dummy.
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    I like your work in this area ChunkyMonkey, thank you for the extra explanation. That bullion will have real value in time, short term maybe you're losing money, I think long term will be completed different.

    I did a quick google on NGC and MS70

    http://www.ngccoin.com/coingrading/grading-scale.aspx

    http://www.apmex.com/product/73720/2...early-releases

    http://www.ebay.com/bhp/gold-eagle-ngc-ms-70

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey View Post
    plus it's not trackable by the big brother hint hint.
    Yet. Folks from some other countries may have a different story.

    I see the value as you've laid it out. We can follow some key principles discussed here: cash transactions, hold the asset (no paper trading), reinvest in more assets, etc.

    Good discussions. We may all have different goals so our strategies may differ a bit.


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    It hasn't recently, but we'll see. Great buying opportunity right now!
    The sudden uptick did not hold, still a golden buying opportunity.

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