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    Default Senate Reached Bipartisan Deal on Background Checks

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...6pLid%3D296292

    Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) announced a deal on background checks for gun sales during a press conference on Wednesday.
    The background check deal would expand the system to cover all commercial sales, such as at gun shows and online, the AP reports.
    Two Senate aides with knowledge of the negotiations broke news of the deal Wednesday morning. The AP reports:
    WASHINGTON — Two pivotal senators have announced a bipartisan deal on expanding background checks to more gun buyers. The agreement could build support for President Barack Obama's drive to curb firearms violence. Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Republican Sen. Patrick Toomey of Pennsylvania said their agreement would help keep firearms from criminals and the mentally ill.
    The checks would now apply to commercial sales, such as transactions at gun shows and online. The sales would have to be channeled through licensed firearms dealers, who would have to keep records of the transactions.
    Manchin said that since the slayings of school children and educators in Newtown, Conn., both sides in the gun debate must find common ground. Toomey said he considers expanded background checks common sense, not gun control.

    Lets hope that the House does not do the same (I have a feeling that they will).
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    The checks would now apply to commercial sales, such as transactions at gun shows and online.
    How is this different from the way it is today?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teufelhund View Post
    How is this different from the way it is today?
    That's my thought too? Gun show dealers already do BGC's, and purchasing online requires shipment to an FFL who must do a BGC IAW state laws to release the firearm to you. Maybe it's another "feel good" piece of legislation that doesn't actually do anything but shows their constituents they are "doing something." They need a law that wasting taxpayer dollars on worthless legislation should be a felony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teufelhund View Post
    How is this different from the way it is today?
    If I understand it correctly it would make the entire country the same as Colorado was before it passed this latest round of gun control laws.

    Here in CO we're used to BG checks on sales between non FFLs at gun shows, but in much of the rest of the country gun shows are just like the forum here or Armslist.

    I also believe the new law would require BG checks for local sales via Armslist and the forums if they make any money off advertising.
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    If this passes, no face-to-face in-state sales are legal anywhere in the country, unless it's between family members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck View Post
    im guessing online means armslist and forum sales.
    Quote Originally Posted by Robb View Post
    If this passes, no face-to-face in-state sales are legal anywhere in the country, unless it's between family members.
    Actually, it sounds like it only applies to COMMERCIAL sales. With the exception of C&R, which requires a federal license, black powder rifles, and antique rifles over 100 years old, all "internet sales" shipped through the mail already require transfer through a FFL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    Actually, it sounds like it only applies to COMMERCIAL sales. With the exception of C&R, which requires a federal license, black powder rifles, and antique rifles over 100 years old, all "internet sales" shipped through the mail already require transfer through a FFL.
    For the C&R's, are you sure it's 100 years and NOT just 50 years old?? Unless we are talking about two different matters, my C&R instruction book shows 50 years to qualify as being a real C&R but this does not include replicas thereof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robb View Post
    If this passes, no face-to-face in-state sales are legal anywhere in the country, unless it's between family members.
    After July 1 here, we'll have to get BGCs for sales to family members.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    After July 1 here, we'll have to get BGCs for sales to family members.
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