My FACEBOOK post to try to educate my contacts about Universal BGC

[Rucker61]

Where'd you get this drivel? You can transfer any number of firearms in one transaction, with one background check for all.

While the CBI/NICS check may cover any number of firearms per transfer, nothing prevents the FFL from insisting on one firearm per BGC.

The argument itself is specious, as you could simply secure the firearms so they're not accessible, and MIL would need no bg check to watch the house.

Given the vagaries of the law, can you show where being in possession of the house precludes possession of any of the contents, locked up or not?

[Rucker61]

The new "Universal Background check" law enacted in Colorado says that if I leave my house for more than 72 hours, I have to gift all guns in my house to my wife.

Somewhere between the 5th version of this bill (rerevised) and the final bill signed by the Governor, the language was changed to allow both bona fide gifts and loans to immediate family members.

http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/cli...e=1229_enr.pdf

[bkincaid]

I believe the same would apply if a magazine was "readily convertible" which is basically any magazine with a removable floorplate.

That's how I believe as well, but this is a quote from CPW site:"Removable base plates
One section of HB 1224 that has drawn attention defines a high-capacity magazine as one that is "CAPABLE OF ACCEPTING, OR THAT IS DESIGNED TO BE READILY CONVERTED TO ACCEPT, MORE THAN FIFTEEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION. " As most removable base plates are designed for cleaning purposes - not for accepting additional rounds or for conversion - there is a presumption that they are legal."

Wonder if the AG has confirmed either yet?

[us1911]

I like your facebook post. It presents the facts in a simple, non-argumentative way that cannot be countered.

I recently disarmed my extremely liberal sister during a discussion of national gun registries as follows: A gun registry is simply a list of citizens who have exercised their 2nd amendment rights. If that's OK, then certainly she would have no problem with other lists of citizens who exercised other constitutionally guaranteed rights. Perhaps a list of citizens who resist random searches? How about a database of troublemakers that petition to redress government actions and decisions?

Analogies, corollaries, and simple examples go a long way to point out the hypocrisy and stupidity in these knee-jerk reactions. Fight emotion with facts, logic, and common sense.

[Goodburbon]

Somewhere between the 5th version of this bill (rerevised) and the final bill signed by the Governor, the language was changed to allow both bona fide gifts and loans to immediate family members.

http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/cli...e=1229_enr.pdf

Yes, but according to the wording of the law my wife's mother is not immediate family to me. I have to "gift" to my wife, then she "gift" to her mother? What about handguns? Can you gift someone a handgun in a state they aren't a resident of?

Also, the wording of the law is all singular. Transfer a weapon/perform a background check. There is no provision for limiting the cost to $10 to do multiple transfers. Assuming that they will do what makes sense, is just that, an assumption.

I'm not a lawyer, I can't assume they mean anything they don't say.


This of course only has to do with the UBC law and ignores the fact that I have dozens of magazines around the house, that can't change possession at all...

[Circuits]

There is no provision for limiting the cost to $10 to do multiple transfers. Assuming that they will do what makes sense, is just that, an assumption.

Neither I nor anyone else can slay the monsters you imagine in your fevered dreams. Look into getting an FFL yourself so you can limit those $300 a pop transfer charges?

[Dr_Fwd]

I'm stealing this....

[Goodburbon]

Neither I nor anyone else can slay the monsters you imagine in your fevered dreams. Look into getting an FFL yourself so you can limit those $300 a pop transfer charges?

Is there a reason you're provoking me instead of using the law to prove me wrong. Because I'm down to be proven wrong, but not in the mood to be provoked.

[Dr_Fwd]

I completely agree with OP.
Goodburbon, I "borrowed" the whole thing and posted on my fb wall....

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

Well put. If I was on spacebook I'd put this on there.