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    Default So now what for Colorado?

    Barack's hopes and dreams of a disarmed society are quickly fading and leaving Hick, Morse, DeGette and Rap Sheet Fields out in the cold. Colorado was supposed to be their beachhead and now there are no reinforcements coming. Bloomberg's promises will ring hollow and the blame game has begun.

    We can't rest, we need to keep pushing, but what do we do?

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    Since the Colorado laws are already signed and set to take effect July 1, the possibility of getting any repeal effort through the state legislature is nil, the possibility of addressing these laws through the state courts is questionable at best, it seems to me that we must use the Liberals tactics of incrementalism to our benefit.

    Although, in our case we must make incrementalism happen in years not decades.

    Recall movements need to advance. We need to get the most offensive of these state legislators out of office as soon as possible.

    Then we need to get pro-Constitution voters involved, registered and out for every local and state election.

    We need to support, finaicially and through our efforts, Constitutional candidates that truly will support and defend our rights and freedom.

    Longer term, after hopefully giving the Democrats the boot from both houses and the governors mansion, we could look at repealing these anti-American laws. But we will need a strong or super majority in both houses to have any hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by losttrail View Post
    the possibility of addressing these laws through the state courts is questionable at best
    Why? (Sincerely)
    I personally feel like it is our best bet. HB1224 was a total over-reach and so poorly written as to be basically unenforceable.
    I'm extremely hopeful a judge agrees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski View Post
    Why? (Sincerely)
    I personally feel like it is our best bet. HB1224 was a total over-reach and so poorly written as to be basically unenforceable.
    I'm extremely hopeful a judge agrees.
    The makeup of the state supreme court is somewhat left-leaning from what I have seen. Now 1224 could be possibly overturned due to the vague, confused, idiotic language. Time will tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by losttrail View Post
    The makeup of the state supreme court is somewhat left-leaning from what I have seen. Now 1224 could be possibly overturned due to the vague, confused, idiotic language. Time will tell.
    Yeah, left-leaning is my understanding as well - but correct - that was my hope. How do you even enforce it as written?
    No matter what your political philosophy, only the deepest of ideologues (like our governor and reps!) will ignore all of these sheriffs' problems with what the law actually means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski View Post
    Yeah, left-leaning is my understanding as well - but correct - that was my hope. How do you even enforce it as written?
    No matter what your political philosophy, only the deepest of ideologues (like our governor and reps!) will ignore all of these sheriffs' problems with what the law actually means.
    That's the point that 62 sheriff's and thinking people tried to make in Denver during the (rigged) committee hearings. But the Democrats (Marxists) have their agenda and truth, logic, freedom, the Constitution have nothing to do with their agenda.

    That's why we have heard from El Paso County sehriff Teryy Makita and others that these laws are unenforcible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylinder Head View Post
    Barack's hopes and dreams of a disarmed society are quickly fading and leaving Hick, Morse, DeGette and Rap Sheet Fields out in the cold. Colorado was supposed to be their beachhead and now there are no reinforcements coming. Bloomberg's promises will ring hollow and the blame game has begun.

    We can't rest, we need to keep pushing, but what do we do?
    VOTE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAPA View Post
    VOTE!
    And when that fails, either by the overwhelming "I want gimme gimme" people or the lack of conservatives/libertarians getting off their asses and getting to the voting booths, or both, then what?
    "There is no news in the truth, and no truth in the news."
    "The revolution will not be televised... Instead it will be filmed from multiple angles via cell phone cameras, promptly uploaded to YouTube, Tweeted about, and then shared on Facebook, pending a Wi-Fi connection."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    And when that fails, either by the overwhelming "I want gimme gimme" people or the lack of conservatives/libertarians getting off their asses and getting to the voting booths, or both, then what?
    Then the people have spoken and it is time to join the "Gimmie Gimmie" crowd. I just hope they don't run out by then.

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    Have a neighbor who has liberal views but is also a hunter and gun owner and he told me a few nights ago he will absolutely not vote for any democrats in the next election. I honestly dont think he's a true liberal but he did vote for the current mess we have here at home and in Washington.
    "A wise man recognizes that although he cannot always control what happens to him, he can always control how he reacts to his failures. As long as he keeps his faith in God and in himself, nothing can permanently defeat him."

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