So now what for Colorado?

[losttrail]

That is exactly what got us in this mess in the first place. People voted for the one that represented their views the closest and we ended up with the DEMOCRAPS!!

Yep, voting for the party over what's right and best for the people.

BTW - I love your APFSDS pic.

[-DJ-]

That is exactly what got us in this mess in the first place. People voted for the one that represented their views the closest and we ended up with the DEMOCRAPS!!

While I am a Republican party line voter, you do realize that there are others that are Democrats--right?

I am saying that gun owners need to unite under the Republican flag, because while it's not perfect, it's the only way to side step getting Democrats in office because of a split Conservative vote.

My deeper point was that there are, and will only ever be, two parties. Democrat or Republican...that's all you get. Regardless of the political agenda, a vote for any candidate outside of these parties is wasted and turns into a vote for the other side.

[avandelay]

A major step would be to unite under the Republican party, and cast off third party candidates that steal votes in close elections. Morse getting elected because of third party votes is an excellent example of this.

Party trumps person, Democrat or Republican, pick the one that represents your views the closest.

The Dems have been caught tossing financial support to the third party candidates to keep them in the fight to split votes.

[buffalobo]

There were two races in the state legislature where third party candidates made any difference in the outcome. Third party is a lame excuse for poor Republican candidates.

[centrarchidae]

There were two races in the state legislature where third party candidates made any difference in the outcome. Third party is a lame excuse for poor Republican candidates.

Those two races were the difference between HB13-1224 passing the Senate, and HB13-1224 not passing the Senate with a good chance of the other bills not coming up for a Senate vote, and for the Senate not changing its rules in mid-session to ramrod the bills through.

[buffalobo]

Those two races were the difference between HB13-1224 passing the Senate, and HB13-1224 not passing the Senate with a good chance of the other bills not coming up for a Senate vote, and for the Senate not changing its rules in mid-session to ramrod the bills through.

BS. Gonna have to explain that one. Seeing as how only one of those was senate race and Dems had 5 vote advantage.

[centrarchidae]

BS. Gonna have to explain that one. Seeing as how only one of those was senate race and Dems had 5 vote advantage.

Senator Hudak won by fewer votes than the L took from (R) Lang Sias. Senator Morse won by fewer votes than the L took from (R) Owen Hill. In both cases, the Dem margin of victory was roughly a quarter of the votes taken by the L candidate.

Or I'm smoking crack and only one of those two is a senator.

And one Democrat (Tochtrop, SD24) who voted against 1224 anyway.

Flip two votes besides Tochtrop and 1224 would have failed by one.

And Morse wouldn't be in a position to set the state senate's agenda and change the hearing rules if he had been defeated.

[buffalobo]

Senator Hudak won by fewer votes than the L took from (R) Lang Sias. Senator Morse won by fewer votes than the L took from (R) Owen Hill. In both cases, the Dem margin of victory was roughly a quarter of the votes taken by the L candidate.

Or I'm smoking crack and only one of those two is a senator.

And one Democrat (Tochtrop, SD24) who voted against 1224 anyway.

Flip two votes besides Tochtrop and 1224 would have failed by one.

And Morse wouldn't be in a position to set the state senate's agenda and change the hearing rules if he had been defeated.

Apologies for calling BS.

I forgot the Dems(there were actually 2, Cheri Jahn and Lois Tochtrop) who voted against 1224. In which case only one of the the two races you reference would need to have been won.

I will not consider the Morse race as it was more than 2 yrs ago and there has been plenty of time to do something about it(as in recall). Also, Dems had majority in Senate, even if Morse had lost, a Dem would be president of Senate and rules shenanigans would be going on. The second race I was referencing was in the house.

I also question the assertion Libertarian votes are majority take aways from Repubs. I don't think data supporting such is quality data. While I rarely get to vote for Libertarians(no candidates in races in my districts), I have turned many more Dems to Libertarian than Repubs.

I think laying blame off on Libertarians is lame and hurts Republican voters(not politicos) by not holding the Colorado Republican party responsible for its very poor performance as a political party.

[mountainjenny]

The republican party would gain voters if they dropped the religion and legislating of morality. Abortion is a single issue vote for many people and they will not even consider voting for a republican as long as it is a part of their platform. Same with gay marriage. I view gay marriage as an equal rights issue and I cannot believe our government has the power to discriminate against a portion of the citizens. If I were gay, I could see this being a single issue vote for me. The republican party is losing voters on issues that are private matters that government should not be involved in. Take these off the table and people will have more reason to look deeper into the issues.

[Cylinder Head]

The republican party would gain voters if they dropped the religion and legislating of morality. Abortion is a single issue vote for many people and they will not even consider voting for a republican as long as it is a part of their platform. Same with gay marriage. I view gay marriage as an equal rights issue and I cannot believe our government has the power to discriminate against a portion of the citizens. If I were gay, I could see this being a single issue vote for me. The republican party is losing voters on issues that are private matters that government should not be involved in. Take these off the table and people will have more reason to look deeper into the issues.

I agree.