Do you oppose Senate Bill 13-195? If so, why?

I'm a NRA Pistol Instructor and Reloading Instructor, this bill if pass to law "help me for more classe$$$" but My conscience tell me :

1- a right is FREE
2- I don't want another law writed in the book

SIMPLE, I'm opposed to any single anti-gun bill.

so we can get college degrees online but are incapable of learning what is necessary to be safe while carrying a firearm concealed?? If you ask me there shouldn't even be a requirement for the course.. You don't need a course to open carry.

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

FFS. We've beaten this topic to death in this forum. Here's the bottom line as I see it:

No one is arguing against permit holders obtaining voluntary training to improve their knowledge and skills. The argument is between those who want the training to be voluntary and those who want mandated training standards set by bureaucrats like Evie Hudak and John Morse and Rhonda Fields.

If you are in favor of gov't mandated training standards for people who want to defend themselves then, in my opinion, you are part of the problem we're facing here in Colorado and in the nation with gov't infringing more and more on our personal liberties. I'd suggest the democrat party is looking for folks like you.

Permit holders are not the problem regardless of the anecdotal stories of "I saw someone at the range handling a gun and they were really scary. I wish the gov't would save me from them". If you want the gov't to take care of you because personal freedom is dangerous and scary, the democrat party is looking for you.

What are you going to do when you can't pass the gov't standards? Oh, that's right. You'll have the gov't to protect you. If that's what you want, the democrat party is looking for you.

If you can't grasp the simple concept that personal freedom and liberty carries a price, if you aren't willing to pay the price, if you don't think others are worthy of the freedoms and liberties laid out in our Constitution, the democrat party is looking for you.

Goddamn, some of you people piss me off the way you talk outta both sides of your mouth about gun rights and freedom.

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Whoa, somebody is grumpy this morning. [Coffee]

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Originally Posted by cysoto

George Zimmerman

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I must have missed the conviction. Or do you also disagree with the position of "Innocent until proven guilty?"

O2

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Originally Posted by Sharpienads

Whoa, somebody is grumpy this morning. [Coffee]

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He was spot on. I get the feeling that most of these "training is a good thing" folks are wet behind the ears, either being young or new to guns.

Once you've been in the game for a couple of decades, you get a real clear picture of what's happening.

And if you've been in the game for a awhile and still think this way, you're either lining your pockets at the expense of a right or you're just ignorant. The good news is ignorance can be cured, stupidity is forever.

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Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

Goddamn, some of you people piss me off the way you talk outta both sides of your mouth about gun rights and freedom.

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I'd suggest that the anger management course "is looking for you!" [Eek3]

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Originally Posted by O2HeN2

I must have missed the conviction. Or do you also disagree with the position of "Innocent until proven guilty?"

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Nope, you didn't miss the verdict but you did miss the original question. No conviction is needed to make the headlines.

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Originally Posted by O2HeN2

Once you've been in the game for a couple of decades, you get a real clear picture of what's happening.

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Yet many of the people whom I see at the range being careless around guns are precisely those who claim they have been shooting all their lives.

Yeah... a lot of people getting their panties in a wad while getting off topic. The topic wasn't whether or not you think you should have to take a class to carry a firearm. The topic was whether or not if the class you have to take should be in person or if you should be able to take it online. When it comes to taking a firearms course... I'm on the side of I think you should or would desire to take it in person. Cost, laziness, stubbornness aside... I don't understand why people wouldn't want to get hands on when it comes to firearms. It doesn't make much sense to me. I liken it to wanting to become a race car driver but not wanting to actually drive the car on the track... a pamphlet or a video game would appease you. I just find it odd... that's all.

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Originally Posted by brobar

The topic wasn't whether or not you think you should have to take a class to carry a firearm. The topic was whether or not if the class you have to take should be in person or if you should be able to take it online.

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^^ FINALLY!! The voice of reason has spoken. ^^

THANK YOU brobar!!