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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    When did that policy start?
    Back in the 90's. They unfortunately already have mine because of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inconel710 View Post
    Every veteran is already in a Federal DNA database. 'Bout time the rest of you joined us!

    It is creepy though.
    I don't believe that for one second... Do you have a reliable source to prove that KIA ID samples were logged into CODIS?
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    Not sure why it is hard to believe. Lots of people in the biomedical field have there DNA on file with the feds. Just like anything else it is good and bad. All branches in the military started collecting DNA from recruits in the early 1990's.

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    They started collecting DNA from all servicemen in the mid-90s to assist with body identification in the future. They probably don't have anything on anyone who retired/separated prior to about 1993-1994 but 1994 is when I remember having to sign a form during an annual physical acknowledging they were taking a sample of my blood for DNA analysis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    They started collecting DNA from all servicemen in the mid-90s to assist with body identification in the future. They probably don't have anything on anyone who retired/separated prior to about 1993-1994 but 1994 is when I remember having to sign a form during an annual physical acknowledging they were taking a sample of my blood for DNA analysis.
    Yes. This is true. Every member in the military gave a blood sample on to Whatman FTA paper, I was there.

    This does NOT mean any analysis results were entered into any database much less CODIS. As an OSI agent, I couldn't even get access to the DNA results or the enlistment fingerprint cards. With a Federal warrant, maybe the fingerprints, but the Cofiler/Profiler results were part of ones medical records and fell under HIPAA. The results were analyzed by an outside company and NOT USACIL, so they couldn't be used for criminal prosecution anyway as they had no official chain of custody for the results.

    Come on people... The amount of uninformed paranoia spewing on the forum lately is dismal. Everyone step back a little and do some research.

    People in criminal labs and biomedical labs have to submit samples for negative comparison. Depending on the biomedical labs job, they may have to submit those samples to a local criminalistics lab for addition to the LDIS portion of the computer system. These may or may not be flagged as negative samples and then not uploaded into SDIS and then CODIS. All crime lab samples are flagged as negatives. If the biomedical lab is running samples under contract for criminal purposes, their negatives are also flagged when entered. So again, no... no big gigantic conspiracy. The negative samples are needed to identify and analyze contaminated tests. Without them, the analysis cannot be accomplished if contaminated (which happens every once in a while due to the high sensitivity of DNA testing now a days).
    Mom's comin' 'round to put it back the way it ought to be.

    Anyone that thinks war is good is ignorant. Anyone that thinks war isn't needed is stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SA Friday View Post
    Come on people... The amount of uninformed paranoia spewing on the forum lately is dismal.
    I heard somewhere that Joe Biden and Michael Bloomberg are IN FACT reptillian shapesifting aliens from the Alpha Centuri star system who want to disarm all Americans before rounding them up in FEMA death camps to begin mass production of Soylent Green patties as a cheap source of protein.
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    we are moving toward an EU style of justice ...oh boy oh boy!

    I do not remember the name of the organization but they have been pushing for a number of years to have a DNA sample taken as an expansion of the fingerprinting program for children
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