Caliber debates about pistols are worthless

[CHA-LEE]

My guess: you've never tried to fire a gun, accurately, in a high stress, adrenaline filled situation. I challenge you to attempt to recreate a scenario like that- go to the range, do 20 pushups, sprint 20M, draw and fire at a silhouette's head within 10 seconds (a damn eternity) from 5-7M all while someone is screaming at you. Good luck... And I've had both .mil and LEO training.

Your suggested challenge isn't much of a challenge. Sounds like less of a challenge than a single USPSA pistol match stage which I attend pretty much every weekend. I know I can quickly draw and effectively hit a head size target at whatever distance is needed under pressure. I can do this because I practice my ass off so it can be done. Not many gun owners hone their pistol craft skills to this level for whatever weak excuse they can come up with. Its easier to ignore the lack in skill and try to offset the deficit by carrying more ammo. To each their own.

Some of you may think that I am trolling this trying to stir up drama, but that is not my intent. I am simply pointing out the fact that going into panic mode and slinging mass quantities of lead in the general vacinity of an attacker is probably not going to yield a better result than simply aiming small so you miss small.

[Bailey Guns]

I am simply pointing out the fact that going into panic mode and slinging mass quantities of lead in the general vacinity of an attacker is probably not going to yield a better result than simply aiming small so you miss small.

Did you not read the part where the officer said this?

The suspect was in the street on the other side of the car. “I could see him by looking under the chassis,” Gramins recalls. “I tried a couple of ricochet rounds that didn’t connect. Then I told myself, ‘Hey, I need to slow down and aim better.”

I don't care what you do in USPSA...getting a better than 50% hit ratio on a moving target that's shooting back at you while you're moving as well is pretty impressive. I'd also say his training as a SWAT officer and sniper is at least as rigorous as USPSA training.

[blacklabel]

Some of you may think that I am trolling this trying to stir up drama, but that is not my intent.

Says he isn't trolling, proceeds to troll some more.

Can we have you shoot a match while I shoot paintballs at you?

[KestrelBike]

Says he isn't trolling, proceeds to troll some more.

Can we have you shoot a match while I shoot SIMUNITIONS at you?

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