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[Irving]

You can go online and purchase a gallon can (sealed) that is packed full of various seeds. I think it costs like $60 though.

[theGinsue]

That sounds like a really good idea - to have several of those on hand.

Keep in mind that you'll need to grow enough food for your whole clan for an entire year.

Knowing how to prepare and store the food to safely last a year+ will be critical too.

[jerrymrc]

Colorado has to be the hardest place to grow stuff I have ever seen. Another thought. Anyone here have a garden at 8000'? I do know some stuff will not grow there but that is another thing to think about.

[Troublco]

Yeah, it's not like some places where almost all you have to do is toss seed on the ground and wait. It takes some real work here, and a good source of water.

[cowboykjohnson]

I hate to sound like an asshole but...
This is a non-problem:
I have guns and ammo and no food + you have food and no ammo = tough shit!
I will do whatever I have to to survive.

Come to take my food and I guarantee you'll leave with out a gun if you leave at all, is the mindset of most who have food.

[theGinsue]

Colorado has to be the hardest place to grow stuff I have ever seen. Another thought. Anyone here have a garden at 8000'? I do know some stuff will not grow there but that is another thing to think about.

I've considered that. One of my considered bug out locations isn't very defensible, but even in late October the area is still very green lush. Few locations in CO, especially in the mtn's where most of us are thinking to bug out, have this capability.

[cbs]

I live at 8,500ft and I grow potatoes carrots lettuce and onions. the fruit is hard to grow up here without a grean house.

[theGinsue]

How well do carrots store? I know that you can have potatoes and onions stored for a year without a problem - if you do it right.

[Beprepared]

Hey All, great conversation
Good book to start is James Wesley, Rawles [U]How to survive the end of the world as we know it[U] and his site survivalblog.com. This is a great addition to this site. As mentioned in another thread Water is the key. The city and the burbs will be a tough place within a week. OK bartering goods...Instant Coffee!!!!! Medicine, my wife is a nurse, we order a backup supply of NON-Narc meds form reputable oversees pharmacies. Know your neighbors and their SKILLS. At least buy a book on flora that can be foraged in your area. How long do you think the deer are going to last with your neighbors shooting all the local deer. Not to mention Denver metro, suburbs, and the Springs heading for the hills!!! At that point its all about the SQUIRRELS, and a good pellet gun!
I lived in the New Orleans area during Katrina. I was north of the Lake and Metro area in the burbs. Most of the animals in the city did'n't want to leave there crack dealer. A few unfortunates although. Always keep your car toped off!!!! Gas was lean before the storm. Where there was power to pump gas the lines were hours long and rationed. The land line phones actually stood for 12 hrs.(amazing) Its hard to see your whole community living on MRE's and ER's. Although its funny watching everyone loose weight the first week because their hungry and working their tail off. Then get on an MRE diet 3 meals a day(6000+calories) gain weight and wonder why.

Please don't forget your Christian roots. There will be alot of people to be wary of. But alot more that will need charity and a hand up.

[cbs]

Ginsue I just finished off the last of my carrots. for the size of my garden verses family I have not stored long term yet. Last year we ate and gave away goods for almot seven months. Iv'e read you can store them in moist sand all winter.