Red neck engineering ice traction idea.

[fitz19d]

What in the actual fucking fuck. Damn moto g since update been stupid. Idid mean banana as it was a yellow suby. But the words before that, I watch it swipe, spells the right word. I move on and bingo breaks everything. Like I get "the" got turned into something else but then there's an entirely new word entered in where I want trying to put another.

[sniper7]

I wonder if it is in drunk mode?

[Irving]

What in the actual fucking fuck. Damn moto g since update been stupid. Idid mean banana as it was a yellow suby. But the words before that, I watch it swipe, spells the right word. I move on and bingo breaks everything. Like I get "the" got turned into something else but then there's an entirely new word entered in where I want trying to put another.

The swipe on my phone has been terrible lately as well.

[sniper7]

I wonder if it has anything to do with the colder temperatures? Fingertip coldness is detrimental to a good text/swipe.

[ray1970]

I am glad to see it didn't hinder the use of profanity. My first iPhone took a little while to realize I curse like a sailor when I text certain people.

[68Charger]

I can count on one hand the number of times I've actually used 4WD in the last 15 years. And one of two of those times were for slick, muddy roads out east and one of those times was coming down some trails coming down off the flat tops after a hunting trip. I have a brother in law who recently turned 50. Born and raised here. I think he just got his first 4WD truck a few years ago. He drove a 2WD Ford Ranger for a long time and always seemed to make it in to work just fine and never missed any family get togethers for the holidays no matter what the weather was like.

Driving in snow and ice is more about driver skill and predicting your stops and turns more than it is about the vehicle or the tires.

This^^^ I was a delivery driver in Anchorage with a 2wd mini-truck

But where I live now, you'll be walking a bit too get to my house without 4wd at times... There are times I can't make it in 2wd... But there are many more times when my wife or daughter say they can't- only to have me walk down and drive their vehicle up.

[OtterbatHellcat]

This is interesting for some reason.

[blacklabel]

Example 2: Nissan Frontier pickup truck (2x4). Hell, if it snows 1/2 an inch you can plan on sliding out leaving the damn garage, much less driving around town. Even with some weight in the back and decent tires, it sucks royal balls. I think a 4x4 Nissan Frontier would be lucky to do as well as a 2x4 460.

My Frontier does pretty well in 2 wheel drive. A lot depends on the tires. I'm also used to driving a 2 wheel drive 71 Chevy pickup in the snow as well as Camaros. The Frontier is piece of cake compared to those two.

[jerrymrc]

Oh hell, forgot about example 3.

Example 3: KLR-650 (1x2). Great in powdered, fresh snow, fully confident. Even if it's pretty deep. But, pretty flipping terrifying after cars have packed the snow down , unless you use custom made VBAR chains, then you can go through anything until it's deep enough that you high center the skid plate.

(yes, seriously)

Add cold-cutters. I believe tires make or break snow. I can drive both FWD/RWD/4WD and back in the day we had two storms in 96/97 in April. first one driving the 70 Grand Prix I made it 1/2 block from the house. Next year driving the Sunbird I made it to the same spot. Both storms were almost identical.

For many years I drove my dodge 3/4t with a LS out back and air locker up front. The only time I ever used the front end was winter in the mountains like going to Buffalo Creek gun club in the winter. Later driving the 06 Grand Prix with snow tires I preferred it to the truck unless the car turned into a snow plow and that was only once. The car is downright boring these days in the snow and ice.

[hurley842002]

Not to start a this tire vs. that tire argument, but this is why I've used duratracs on several vehicles. I rarely put my Tacoma in 4wd (mainly off highway in deep snow) and never put weight in the back. I suspect the Xterra with duratracs and F/R limited slip will do even better.


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