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"When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law." -Frederic Bastiat
"I am a conservative. Quite possibly I am on the losing side; often I think so. Yet, out of a curious perversity I had rather lose with Socrates, let us say, than win with Lenin."
― Russell Kirk, Author of The Conservative Mind
And I'm glad you didn't die while surfing the internet on your phone and driving over 100mph in the middle of the night in the middle of Alabama.
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"When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law." -Frederic Bastiat
"I am a conservative. Quite possibly I am on the losing side; often I think so. Yet, out of a curious perversity I had rather lose with Socrates, let us say, than win with Lenin."
― Russell Kirk, Author of The Conservative Mind
After a week of intense, stressful(condensed 3 week course into 1 week) training, I had to twist off and alcohol was not an option.
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HB, did you read where he does the math showing the difference in earnings compared to the taxes paid? I particularly liked the part about funding a traditional IRA, then transferring it to a Roth later, but I don't know if those specific circumstances would ever come up in my life. I like the idea of funding both, and as he initially points out, the most important part is funding at all, and much less w which path you chose.
Interesting that you didn't have a great experience with the TSP's. Nice to bounce ideas off of someone who is active in real markets. There is a link to some management tool on there as well, but I didn't post it.
"There are no finger prints under water."
Lobo, you do realize you had a million % greater chance of dying in that car while texting at triple digits than of crashing in the airplane and getting more than a scratch or bruise?
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Credit TFOGGER : Liberals only want things to be "fair and just" if it benefits them.
Credit Zundfolge: The left only supports two "rights"; Buggery and Infanticide.
Credit roberth: List of things Government does best; 1. Steal your money 2. Steal your time 3. Waste the money they stole from you. 4. Waste your time making you ask permission for things you have a natural right to own. "Anyone that thinks the communists won't turn off your power for being on COAR15 is a fucking moron."
Yeah I read that and his math is sound, but if the money is going to be there for 30 years or more (which is the case for both of us at this point, because we're both at least 30 years away from 59.5) it almost always makes more sense to do a Roth, primarily because of the tax free growth. If you max your contributions to your and Mrs Irving's IRAs every year for 30 years, using the unimpressive 7% figure above, you will have basically made more than $700k in absolutely 100% tax-free income.
If you max your Roth and have money left over, then by all means, put it in good mutual funds outside of your IRA and let it grow alongside your retirement, but without the tax advantages. Alternatively, this is a perfect time to really diversify your portfolio in real estate or other types of investments.
If I'm wrong about any of this, please stop me, but I am 98% confident in my conclusions. If I am screwing up the math, or reading the tax law wrong, stop me now! -I am relying on these things for my future! hahaha
*As always, don't ever trust investing advice from a friend without doing your own thorough research.*
Last edited by HoneyBadger; 02-13-2016 at 13:42.
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"When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law." -Frederic Bastiat
"I am a conservative. Quite possibly I am on the losing side; often I think so. Yet, out of a curious perversity I had rather lose with Socrates, let us say, than win with Lenin."
― Russell Kirk, Author of The Conservative Mind
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