Quote Originally Posted by foxtrot View Post
This message from our president has been brought to you by "I told you so™".

Had "red-flag" laws existed based on the mere promise of a "family member" several years ago, even I probably wouldn't be legally permitted to buy firearms at this point. Some families have sociopaths - I'm not blood related to those in mine (and luckily, at this point they have no credibility left). Yet, guess who is going to be making primary use of things like this - ah yeah, the manipulators, the sociopaths, who can now brand someone a violent threat absent due process for their own purposes. While I may not be personally affected by this point, many innocents will be.

Parents with violent shitbags? Nah, they won't be using red-flags. It's not in our genetic coding to do that to your children.

ETA: More than anyone I have to withhold my feelings on this matter. I will say nothing pisses me off than a gov't that ignores due process. I'm hoping for a Pence+new VP ticket in 2020 and I'll leave it at that.


It's the perfect way of one's ex getting custody of the kids, without ever using an attorney.