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    ***POSSIBLE SPOILER ALERTS: Not sure how since I think we all know how the Apollo 11 mission went. But if you're the sensitive type and don't wanna know anything about a movie you want to see, you might not wanna read this.***

    Wife and I went to see "First Man" this afternoon.

    The worst movie in the history of man was "The Thin Red Line". "Pearl Harbor" was a close second.

    "First Man" wasn't in the same league of bad as those two, but it almost came really close. Seriously? How do you fuck up a movie about the first moon landing? By making half the movie about Armstrong's dysfunctional family life. That's how. The Gemini and Apollo space programs are some of the greatest moments of American history complete with unprecedented (at the time) triumphs and heart-breaking disasters. The flight sequences are some of the best of any movie made about NASA and the space program. Some of the detail in the scenes really gives you a sense of how the most complicated thing man has ever done was so reliant on innocuous, seemingly insignificant pieces of metal and plastic. You'll know what I mean if you see the movie.

    But it seems like they go to great lengths to try to get you into the mind of Armstrong and just fail miserably. I felt like I never knew if he was just an egotistical chump or a guy trying to put fear and personal tragedies aside while focusing on some of the most important work the world has ever seen. If I didn't know a little about the man, and hadn't grown up in Houston when all this was going on, I'd think it was the former from this movie.

    Then there were a few technical details that bothered me...like clouds at 130,000 feet. Granted, for the most part they got the details right. But stuff like that is so easy that it seems way more important than it should be when they screw it up.

    Looking at some online reviews this seems to be a movie that movie critics love, audiences...not so much. For me it was just a 50/50 split. I really liked half the movie and really didn't like half the movie.

    I would've rather watched "The Right Stuff" or "Apollo 13" again. Much better movies even if not quite so historically, and personally, accurate (it was a really good portrayal of Armstrong's personality). That's not an endorsement of Ryan Gosling's performance, though. I thought he did a good job...not a great job.

    So I'm giving it 2.5/5 Stars. Rather than pay $10 or more for a ticket, wait for Netflix. I wish I wasn't such a sucker for movies about great things Americans have accomplished. Too often I'm disappointed. My wife says it's because I'd rather just watch an accurate documentary rather than a feature movie. I think it's because Hollywood really doesn't like America. But that's just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    ***POSSIBLE SPOILER ALERTS: Not sure how since I think we all know how the Apollo 11 mission went. But if you're the sensitive type and don't wanna know anything about a movie you want to see, you might not wanna read this.***

    Wife and I went to see "First Man" this afternoon.

    The worst movie in the history of man was "The Thin Red Line". "Pearl Harbor" was a close second.

    "First Man" wasn't in the same league of bad as those two, but it almost came really close. Seriously? How do you fuck up a movie about the first moon landing? By making half the movie about Armstrong's dysfunctional family life. That's how. The Gemini and Apollo space programs are some of the greatest moments of American history complete with unprecedented (at the time) triumphs and heart-breaking disasters. The flight sequences are some of the best of any movie made about NASA and the space program. Some of the detail in the scenes really gives you a sense of how the most complicated thing man has ever done was so reliant on innocuous, seemingly insignificant pieces of metal and plastic. You'll know what I mean if you see the movie.

    But it seems like they go to great lengths to try to get you into the mind of Armstrong and just fail miserably. I felt like I never knew if he was just an egotistical chump or a guy trying to put fear and personal tragedies aside while focusing on some of the most important work the world has ever seen. If I didn't know a little about the man, and hadn't grown up in Houston when all this was going on, I'd think it was the former from this movie.

    Then there were a few technical details that bothered me...like clouds at 130,000 feet. Granted, for the most part they got the details right. But stuff like that is so easy that it seems way more important than it should be when they screw it up.

    Looking at some online reviews this seems to be a movie that movie critics love, audiences...not so much. For me it was just a 50/50 split. I really liked half the movie and really didn't like half the movie.

    I would've rather watched "The Right Stuff" or "Apollo 13" again. Much better movies even if not quite so historically, and personally, accurate (it was a really good portrayal of Armstrong's personality). That's not an endorsement of Ryan Gosling's performance, though. I thought he did a good job...not a great job.

    So I'm giving it 2.5/5 Stars. Rather than pay $10 or more for a ticket, wait for Netflix. I wish I wasn't such a sucker for movies about great things Americans have accomplished. Too often I'm disappointed. My wife says it's because I'd rather just watch an accurate documentary rather than a feature movie. I think it's because Hollywood really doesn't like America. But that's just me.
    I read that they decided that rather than making an "America's great!" sort of film, they'd rather do a "transcend countries and borders" nonsense. The fact that they left out the flag-planting portion of the landing enraged Buzz Aldrin, whom they snubbed to the point of practically leaving him out of the film. When I read about that, I realized that limp-wristed bitches were trying once again to rewrite history and to feed their regurgitated pap to lazy kids who would rather see the movie and take it for gospel instead of what really happened.

    In that spirit, here's a hearty "F you" to those who seek to neuter American accomplishments. Enjoy this gif.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrey View Post
    I read that they decided that rather than making an "America's great!" sort of film, they'd rather do a "transcend countries and borders" nonsense. The fact that they left out the flag-planting portion of the landing enraged Buzz Aldrin, whom they snubbed to the point of practically leaving him out of the film. When I read about that, I realized that limp-wristed bitches were trying once again to rewrite history and to feed their regurgitated pap to lazy kids who would rather see the movie and take it for gospel instead of what really happened.

    In that spirit, here's a hearty "F you" to those who seek to neuter American accomplishments.
    Ya know, I meant to mention that when I said "Hollywood hates America" but forgot. So thanks for bringing that up. Love the Jockey thing.

    ETA: Unfortunately, I didn't read anything about the movie before going. Just watched the trailer. Shame on me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    I think it's because Hollywood really doesn't like America. But that's just me.
    No, it's not just you. I have to wonder how Clint Eastwood would have approached this film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    No, it's not just you. I have to wonder how Clint Eastwood would have approached this film.

    American exceptionalism is what made this country what it is, but the left can't stand it.
    SPOILER ALERT

    There's a few scenes later in to Season 3 of The Man in The High Castle where the nazi's discuss how they want to approach the new propaganda push.

    They decide by erasing Every American History reference (like the left does with any resemblance to other than PC history) Statue of Liberty, Mt Rushmore etc. Today's and the future youth of the new GNR (German Nazi Reich) will grow up only knowing what the nazi's want them to know.
    They're calling it Jahr Null / Year Zero - A New Beginning.

    Sounds familiar to what the left has been doing for decades, only coming out more publicly since their defeat in 16 with RESIST
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    SPOILER ALERT

    There's a few scenes later in to Season 3 of The Man in The High Castle where the nazi's discuss how they want to approach the new propaganda push.

    They decide by erasing Every American History reference (like the left does with any resemblance to other than PC history) Statue of Liberty, Mt Rushmore etc. Today's and the future youth of the new GNR (German Nazi Reich) will grow up only knowing what the nazi's want them to know.
    They're calling it Jahr Null / Year Zero - A New Beginning.

    Sounds familiar to what the left has been doing for decades, only coming out more publicly since their defeat in 16 with RESIST
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