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"When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law." -Frederic Bastiat
"I am a conservative. Quite possibly I am on the losing side; often I think so. Yet, out of a curious perversity I had rather lose with Socrates, let us say, than win with Lenin."
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Why should the tax payers who continue to work pay their salaries.
It should be ?if you don?t show up.. you won?t get back pay?
I think fed gov employees like the extra paid time off?
Should only be paid if they used thier paid leave to cover the days off.
You know, conservatives work heavily in the government too.
What if you, in your job, are told they will be taking an arbitrary break from paying you, but you're expected to keep showing up and continuing to work full time, while also covering shifts for those quitting or not showing up, and oh, maybe someday, we'll pay you back (with massive deductions taken out of an improperly calculated check), but also, maybe not, and if you quit, fuck you and any back pay.
Know any fed gov employees or contractors? Pretty sure people like stability and regular paychecks, not chaos, and forced furloughs, for non-specific times, and also with no clarity of if they will even receive backpay.
Facing possibly homelessness or bankruptcy while driving for Uber at minimum wage is probably not how they want to spend "time off".
Most people live paycheck-to-paycheck these days....
In the end the R’s will cave and give the Dems everything they want and we will be on our way to the NEXT shutdown.
The R’s will always get the blame.
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Govt. Shutdown?.again?
?because they have their food uber?d to them once a day or more.
The amount of wasteful spending I see is mind blowing. If you can pay all your bills and want doordash, go forcit. If you door-dash, then want sympathy for not being able to pay your rent, no sympathy is given.
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From what I am reading, the impasse hinges on the GOP agreeing to extending the ACA tax credit. In the mean time Cape Canaveral is ordered to only do night time launches due to staffing shortages.
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Holy Crap!
WE might agree on something. Sortta.
FWIW: Most? Alot? of the Federal workers I know are still working so this "we are paying them but they aren't working" argument isn't valid. The ones that are furloughed aren't working OR getting paid.
They have received assurances that things like rent/mortgage wont be defaulted and will be allowed to "get caught up" once this clears.
And yes they will receive back pay, but that doesn't make it right or easy.
The Dems have reached a new low: They are truly and without question leveraging all this just to score some sort of point.
They dont give a rats ass about these workers........... they IMMEDIATELY refused a bill that would pay Fed workers during shut downs like this.
They dont care, they just need a win, any sort of win against Trump as so far he's been destroying them.
Last edited by Oscar77; Yesterday at 18:45.
Despite signing a bill last time to the contrary, hasn't Trump broadly stated that furloughed workers wouldn't be paid? Not disagreeing with you, but just pointing out for all that there's no predictability here in any regard.
Dems are a huge issue, GOP doesn't have clean underwear either.
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