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    Quote Originally Posted by dwalker460 View Post
    Has occured to me, and I have the following thoughts-

    A> A VERY large percentage of our population has not a clue about how animals are food, or how to make animals into food. I believe most of the sheeple will not resort to the hills and hunting, but instead stick to urban centers hoping for some form of caretaking. I do nothing to discourage this line of thinking.
    B> Without King Sooper and Starbucks, the next impulse will be to buy or steal prepared foods- which is why it does not pay to advertise that you are a prepper or have any amount of stored foods- someone will remember.
    C> While a lot of people own guns, not all of them know how to hunt and your kidding yourself if you think the animals wont fade into deep cover.
    I agree with all 3 of these points as well.
    A - the ignorance of the masses, is unquestionable. Nevertheless, I pity the ranchers who may start losing their cattle the moment grocers run dry...
    B - yep. Only a select few people know what provisions my wife and I have or don't have, and that's intentional. None of them actually know what we have exactly, just that we do canning and have a costco membership. Defending our provisions is a given.
    C - No doubt about it. Lots of shooters are not hunters. I know tons of them. My point is not so much that we'd kill them all, but also exactly what you said... they'll "fade into deep cover". Thus, making my point that they're not around anymore.... I'm just saying it's likely that folks can't necessarily expect to rely on "game" to be their primary food source unless a) you're already in a very secluded area and know how to hunt, or b) the majority of folks leave/populations diminish and animals return.
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    We are already bugged out.

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    Being that the OP gave us a really good idea of what the roads will be like, I plan to bug in. If I have to bug home under these conditions I have a plan for that as well. My bike a buggy are in my truck at all times and I can ride up to 100 miles in a day.

    I think most only see one degree of SHFT, complete chaos. Chaos may come at different levels depending on the situation. Most likely it will come on slowly at first. Most preppers will know long before others will and get a jump on the traffic so being stuck in traffic is something I don't worry too much about.

    All that being said, if it goes completely south I'm going out in a blaze of fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn.man View Post
    We are already bugged out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwalker460 View Post
    Has occured to me, and I have the following thoughts-

    A> A VERY large percentage of our population has not a clue about how animals are food, or how to make animals into food. I believe most of the sheeple will not resort to the hills and hunting, but instead stick to urban centers hoping for some form of caretaking. I do nothing to discourage this line of thinking.
    B> Without King Sooper and Starbucks, the next impulse will be to buy or steal prepared foods- which is why it does not pay to advertise that you are a prepper or have any amount of stored foods- someone will remember.
    C> While a lot of people own guns, not all of them know how to hunt and your kidding yourself if you think the animals wont fade into deep cover.
    I think where you live might be putting a skew on your perception of Colorado's populace, true Denver is full of the clueless, but pretty much everywhere else is chock full of hunters/gun owners. This place would get very very interesting, very quick, esp. in the places where water isn't easily obtained. The key is water, the food part would be fairly easy.

    It all depends on what kind of SHTF your dealing with. Am I the only one that has pre-routed out of country destinations? Face it folks, if it gets that shitty here, New Mexico, Utah, etc. are going to have the same problem. If its isolated inside of the USA, you'll have to leave, or welcome to the new Bosnia! If it is an isolated event (I.e. virus, social unrest) it can probably be out-waited by bugging in. If our country goes 3rd world and tyranical, I'll become the next Russian/German/Brazilian etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lead_magnet View Post
    I think where you live might be putting a skew on your perception of Colorado's populace, true Denver is full of the clueless, but pretty much everywhere else is chock full of hunters/gun owners. This place would get very very interesting, very quick, esp. in the places where water isn't easily obtained. The key is water, the food part would be fairly easy.

    It all depends on what kind of SHTF your dealing with. Am I the only one that has pre-routed out of country destinations? Face it folks, if it gets that shitty here, New Mexico, Utah, etc. are going to have the same problem. If its isolated inside of the USA, you'll have to leave, or welcome to the new Bosnia! If it is an isolated event (I.e. virus, social unrest) it can probably be out-waited by bugging in. If our country goes 3rd world and tyranical, I'll become the next Russian/German/Brazilian etc.
    Not me, i'm staying put. i have a hard enough time humping out to the shop,let alone out of state or country. Hope su espanol es bueno
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    Ok here's the deal You co-ar board member have everything packed and you are on the road. BOL is area X 1/2 way there the 2 lane road you're on is jammed tighter than, well you figure it out. What's plan B. Do you hump it on foot say the 20ish miles over moderate to rough terrain, dealing with everyone else, not to mention the newly formed pack of predators? Is everyone in your party capable of walking that distance, are your shtf items too much to carry, along with all the other shit you now have to leave behind?
    How bad did Plan A got to sh$%^t and can you pause long enough to go to Plan B, OR are you realistically screwed just like everyone else on that road?
    Should you have had better back up plans, stayed home or moved to another area with like minded folks etc, etc.
    Good thread Jim.

    My first plan is to bug in, as I don't want to be one of the thousands of people clogging the roads trying to get out. We can comfortably stay here without electricity and even water (etc) for well over a month. By then if we have to go many of the sheeple will have died off. About the only thing I'd have to do is dig a latrine in the back yard.

    Second part of the bugout, for now, involves getting to a pre-arranged mountain location where family lives. For that we have a truck and a jeep and a winch, and can and will go offroad if need be.

    We also have an alternate bugout location of a large storage unit where again we could stay quite some time if need be.

    I say "for now" on the bugout as we'll soon be buying land + house or land then building on it. Once we have that, we'll be there for the long haul and not bugout at all.

    Gear-wise, we have it all in one place, and can easily load it all up in a couple of hours. Haven't tried that yet, plan to whenIgetaroundtoit, but I'm sure I can get all we need loaded up.

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    Staying put. Zombies don't want to wander into Teller County, gun ownership capital of Colorado.

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