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    Quote Originally Posted by Hound View Post
    They do of course have to put up a reasonable candidate though. Put up a "women like rape" or "can control pregnancy" buffoon and it will be their own foot they are shooting.
    This is the big thing. The Repubs need to lose some religion and move a bit closer to the middle for this to work. No matter the party, it seems the longer they are in power the farther they slide away from the middle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAPA View Post
    This is the big thing. The Repubs need to lose some religion and move a bit closer to the middle for this to work. No matter the party, it seems the longer they are in power the farther they slide away from the middle.
    I disagree. Quite frankly, the squishiness is turning me off of them.

    Call me naive, but I wish that politicians would state unequivocally what they believe and stand by it, not just saying what they think will get them re-elected.

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    I know more than a few people that won't vote repub because of the religious thing. It's a big deal to some folk out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAPA View Post
    This is the big thing. The Repubs need to lose some religion and move a bit closer to the middle for this to work. No matter the party, it seems the longer they are in power the farther they slide away from the middle.
    YUP! If you continue to push religion into politics you're only going to isolate others who could potentially join your political party. Get the religious extremists and the racist people out and you might win over more people if you go back to being the party of Eisenhower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski View Post
    Why? (Sincerely)
    I personally feel like it is our best bet. HB1224 was a total over-reach and so poorly written as to be basically unenforceable.
    I'm extremely hopeful a judge agrees.
    The makeup of the state supreme court is somewhat left-leaning from what I have seen. Now 1224 could be possibly overturned due to the vague, confused, idiotic language. Time will tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by losttrail View Post
    The makeup of the state supreme court is somewhat left-leaning from what I have seen. Now 1224 could be possibly overturned due to the vague, confused, idiotic language. Time will tell.
    Yeah, left-leaning is my understanding as well - but correct - that was my hope. How do you even enforce it as written?
    No matter what your political philosophy, only the deepest of ideologues (like our governor and reps!) will ignore all of these sheriffs' problems with what the law actually means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski View Post
    Yeah, left-leaning is my understanding as well - but correct - that was my hope. How do you even enforce it as written?
    No matter what your political philosophy, only the deepest of ideologues (like our governor and reps!) will ignore all of these sheriffs' problems with what the law actually means.
    That's the point that 62 sheriff's and thinking people tried to make in Denver during the (rigged) committee hearings. But the Democrats (Marxists) have their agenda and truth, logic, freedom, the Constitution have nothing to do with their agenda.

    That's why we have heard from El Paso County sehriff Teryy Makita and others that these laws are unenforcible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Epyon View Post
    YUP! If you continue to push religion into politics you're only going to isolate others who could potentially join your political party. Get the religious extremists and the racist people out and you might win over more people if you go back to being the party of Eisenhower.
    Interesting use of "...your political party."
    I take it you are not speaking of your own party here.

    I might share your views on 2A (doubt it), but that's as far as I go.
    How bout you concern yourself with your own party and stop trying to turn a somewhat "conservative" party into a bunch of Nancy boys.

    If the Republican party would grow a pair and tell it like it is, they would increase membership and participation.
    Republicans need to stop worrying about catering to the progressive queers and welfare scum and stand for something.

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    A major step would be to unite under the Republican party, and cast off third party candidates that steal votes in close elections. Morse getting elected because of third party votes is an excellent example of this.

    Party trumps person, Democrat or Republican, pick the one that represents your views the closest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -DJ- View Post

    Party trumps person, Democrat or Republican, pick the one that represents your views the closest.
    That is exactly what got us in this mess in the first place. People voted for the one that represented their views the closest and we ended up with the DEMOCRAPS!!
    You can't polish a turd!!
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