No colored pmags available until after CO deadline

[TS12000]

Do you feel safer knowing cops are going to be spending their time (aka your money) checking date stamps on pieces of plastic? If I was a cop 0% of my attention would go to enforcing this.

[Ingman]

FYI: I sent Magpul an email awhile back asking if colored PMags would be available before the July 1st deadline. I just received a response and here it is, straight from the horses' mouth:

"Colored PMags will not be available to Colorado buyers under the Airlift program, or through Magpul website before the deadline.
Sorry for the late reply..."

Bummer.

If Colorado enforces this magazine ban like other states enforced theirs, then repair of preban magazines should still be completely legal. The solution to getting the colored magazines you want will be to simply rebuild your preban magazines with new bodies and floorplates in the desired color.

Reminds me of the Ship of Theseus.

[kidicarus13]

If Colorado enforces this magazine ban like other states enforced theirs, then repair of preban magazines should still be completely legal. The solution to getting the colored magazines you want will be to simply rebuild your preban magazines with new bodies and floorplates in the desired color.

So we'll be able to replace the mag bodies even though they'll be dated stamped after the law goes into effect. In other states, can you replace every part making it a completely new magazine? I guess only time will tell.

[Fromk]

So we'll be able to replace the mag bodies even though they'll be dated stamped after the law goes into effect. In other states, can you replace every part making it a completely new magazine? I guess only time will tell.

You can in California. There are a good number of online retailers who even sell a full "rebuild kit."

[clublights]

It has been posted many times but no one seems to understand that magpul stamps all of their mags with month and year of manufacture, its the clock looking thing, and if you think you can just scrape it off and all is good you are again wrong, you will be automatically guilty, no questions asked. You had better believe that the state knows that magpul mags are marked and will be looking for them. Now if magpul were to stop marking them then all would be good, other than ak mags as they will no be produced until after the ban.

They will have to stop marking them before the effective date of the law for that to work too .. since if it is " common knowledge" they stopped date stamping after X date then an un marked mag would be known to have been produced after that date.

[Great-Kazoo]

You guys need to visit the magpul Custom Shop. Any color pmag is at your fingertips

[Hound]

100% unenforceable. In order for this to be enforceable the state would have to require all magazines owned prior to the ban be serialized and registered, any magazines not serialized and registered by a certain date would be prohibited. Since there is no serial number or date stamp there is no way for a police officer to know whether or not your magazine was bought after the ban.

Many lawyers who have reviewed this law say this is one of the worst written pieces of legislation in Colorado history and believe it won't be enforced due to the fact that any decent defense attorney will be able to have any possession charge thrown out of court.

Wish I could agree but the logic does not work in all circumstances such as these Magpul AK mags. For the same reason NONE of us will ever own a legal full auto PS90 we will not own Magpul AK mags since they will only be available AFTER the deadline.

I so wish I were wrong about this!

Now if we 3D print them.... That is another matter

[Great-Kazoo]

Wish I could agree but the logic does not work in all circumstances such as these Magpul AK mags. For the same reason NONE of us will ever own a legal full auto PS90 we will not own Magpul AK mags since they will only be available AFTER the deadline.

I so wish I were wrong about this!

Now if we 3D print them.... That is another matter

Speak for yourself. With the right paperwork 1 of anything is legal. I wouldn't waste it on a PS90, but hey that's me.

[Ingman]

So we'll be able to replace the mag bodies even though they'll be dated stamped after the law goes into effect. In other states, can you replace every part making it a completely new magazine? I guess only time will tell.

That is exactly what the situation is in California. You can replace every single part of your old magazine with new parts and it is still legally your old magazine. To be legal you have to do the replacement in stages, so if zero parts were interchangeable between magazines it wouldn't work. But say you had a preban USGI magazine. You could take it apart, keep the spring, and then rebuild the magazine around that spring with a PMAG body, follower, and baseplate. You could then rebuild that magazine by putting the PMAG spring into it. You end up with a 100% new PMAG magazine in a configuration that didn't exist before the ban, that is legally considered preban.

A big difference between California and Colorado is that they have the CalGuns Foundation and we have nothing remotely similar. CGF isn't really a lobbying organization like RMGO, they are more of a legal advocacy group for the right to bear arms. CGF has been behind forcing courts and the DOJ to clarify what exactly the law means, and then advising the California gun community how they can fully exercise their rights and stay within the law. CGF also makes a sort of "implied promise" that if someone follows CGF recommendations and still ends up being prosecuted for breaking the law, then CGF will step forward for their legal defense. Once CGF says something is within the law they will aggressively fight to stop precedent being set anywhere to the contrary in the state.

CGF doesn't take on everything and they make it clear what their limits are. For example, "open carry" is technically legal in California but CGF doesn't get involved there. It is an area of the law where they don't want to spend their money and time.

It is largely due to CGF that Californians are able to have AR-15s at all, and largely due to CGF that things like off-list lowers, monsterman grips, bullet buttons, and magazine rebuilds have been figured out.

Like I wrote, Colorado has nothing that remotely resembles CGF.

[hatidua]

You guys need to visit the magpul Custom Shop. Any color pmag is at your fingertips

That assumes that people can think outside the box. That thinking is outdated.