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    Quote Originally Posted by Eow View Post
    It is really sad for me to see stuff like this posted on this forum. If the second amendment is treated with respect anywhere, it should be here. SA Friday, should we also require people to pay for a government permit proving they have taken sensitivity training classes before they are allowed to exercise their first amendment right to free speech?

    How can you possibly support the idea of a basic right (not a privilege like driving a car, an individual constitutional right) like this being subject to the government administering and issuing a permit? Don't you believe in the freedoms our forefathers fought and died for? As Benjamin Franklin said: "Those Who Would Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither".
    When you ND your mouth, you don't blow a hole in something.

    As for putting a basic limitation on a constitutional right, it happens all the time. You can't yell "fire" in a crowded theater and claim that's covered by the first ammendment after someone is trampled to death. I'm not proposing or discussing a limitation on a constitutional right. I'm advocating competence.

    If you feel so strongly about your constitutional right being violated by a basic test, then you should also feel that one should be able to just carry a loaded pistol when ever they wanted and shouldn't require a CCW. I'm cool with that. Try out some civil disobedience with that one and let me know how it turns out.

    As for insinuating I'm in any way disrespecting the 2nd ammendment based on my opinion, you're way off base. Check yourself. Disagree with me, debate with me. Don't in one breath tell me how I'm disrespecting the 2nd ammendment, but how awful it is that I can voice my opinion here on this forum in accordance with the 1st ammendment.

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    voice all you want but the more you let big regulate your life the less you have a right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SA Friday View Post
    As for insinuating I'm in any way disrespecting the 2nd ammendment based on my opinion, you're way off base. Check yourself. Disagree with me, debate with me. Don't in one breath tell me how I'm disrespecting the 2nd ammendment, but how awful it is that I can voice my opinion here on this forum in accordance with the 1st ammendment.
    Yes, I believe you are disrespecting the 2nd amendment; I challenge anyone to read your posts and come to a different conclusion. I also support your first amendment right to say what you want, however wrong I believe you are. I'm just disappointed to see someone on a gun forum begging for more government regulation of guns.

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    I know this is a couple of months too late but let me put in my opinion. I was at Sportsmans Warehouse one day when two (gorgeous) girls were looking for ammunition for the CCW class they were taking that weekend. They were looking in the reloading section and were going to buy a box of 9mm bullets for loading when they got some help. Obviously they didn't know anything about a gun. Fortunately they had signed up with someone that required live fire.

    Should the gov require live fire? I don't trust the gov to require anything. Once they get a small requirement in place it is only time until it becomes a larger requirement, it always escalates. Too many politicians justify their job by passing unneeded legislation.

    Everyone of you should read the book "More Guns; Less Crime", the most complete study ever done of gun laws and actual events.

    I am all for more training but less government. My wife and I are going to take the class soon, we chose a group that does about 5 hours of class followed by 5 hours of range time.

    YMMV

    Dale

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