Frankenstorm

[roberth]

Abso-fucking-lutely! Isnt it time Haiti learned to live or die on its own?

Not just Haiti.

More news from a different source

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2012/10...in-some-states

[hatidua]

I'm looking at the news stories and everything and I want to feel sorry for the sheeple but I can't. They had ample warning. They have had time to prepare.

Mirrors my sentiments exactly. There was ample food/water/fuel ten days ago when the news was already on this story nonstop.

What, you didn't have any food/water/fuel set aside for just such an event? Will you next time???

[Great-Kazoo]

Mirrors my sentiments exactly. There was ample food/water/fuel ten days ago when the news was already on this story nonstop.

What, you didn't have any food/water/fuel set aside for just such an event? Will you next time???

There is only so much fuel you can set aside, especially in any place as congested as the east coast. Here it is NO bulk storage of fuel what so ever. Sure 20-30 gals in 5 gal cans is nothing (to us) What is plan B once fuel delivery has ceased, your option for siphoning gas is in the crapper due to flooding / contaminated fuel??

[hatidua]

There is only so much fuel you can set aside, especially in any place as congested as the east coast. Here it is NO bulk storage of fuel what so ever. Sure 20-30 gals in 5 gal cans is nothing (to us) What is plan B once fuel delivery has ceased, your option for siphoning gas is in the crapper due to flooding / contaminated fuel??

I've been through three direct hits from Cat 4 hurricanes and two typhoons with winds clocked above 140mph, not 80mph blows like ny/nj got. When something like this is bearing down, sane individuals, make it out of town or plan on how they are going to stick it out and what supplies that entails.

Hurricanes, unlike many other natural disasters, come with a significant window of warning, typically more than a week, and even longer in the case of Sandy.

Would it be unfortunate to lose one's home, certainly. Did this come with no warning at all? -hardly.

Two or three five-gallon gas cans worth of fuel would easily get people to higher ground and that amount of gas was widely available a week ago. For that matter, pull into the Texaco, gas up and go.

I feel for anyone that loses what they have but in speaking with friends who live (and remain) in lower Manhattan, this isn't the end of civilization as we know it, it's destruction in a heavily populated area that would have done far more damage in just about any other country on earth.

If a person pays the premium to live on a sandbar with an elevation of 0', and the news is forecasting an oncoming storm, it might be a good idea to leave before things hit. Once out of the affected area, fuel availability isn't really an issue anymore.

[SuperiorDG]

There is only so much fuel you can set aside, especially in any place as congested as the east coast. Here it is NO bulk storage of fuel what so ever. Sure 20-30 gals in 5 gal cans is nothing (to us) What is plan B once fuel delivery has ceased, your option for siphoning gas is in the crapper due to flooding / contaminated fuel??

There are plenty of alternative ways of reducing the amount of fuel one would need. Also, probably a lot of them didn't even have the containers for the fuel on hand. They didn't need to store all that fuel, but having the ability to do so would have been smart.

I would imagine a lot of this fuel is going to feed generators. One could reduce the items that need a generator, no TVs and other nonessential items. Battery powered radio work for news. Have a store of food that doesn't require refrigeration, and cook with propane. They could eat all the stuff that would go bad while the had fuel and rely on the other stuff later.



What am I saying, this is just basic preppier talk. All those people standing in line are dump asses.

[Great-Kazoo]

I've been through three direct hits from Cat 4 hurricanes and two typhoons with winds clocked above 140mph, not 80mph blows like ny/nj got. When something like this is bearing down, sane individuals, make it out of town or plan on how they are going to stick it out and what supplies that entails.

Hurricanes, unlike many other natural disasters, come with a significant window of warning, typically more than a week, and even longer in the case of Sandy.

Would it be unfortunate to lose one's home, certainly. Did this come with no warning at all? -hardly.

Two or three five-gallon gas cans worth of fuel would easily get people to higher ground and that amount of gas was widely available a week ago. For that matter, pull into the Texaco, gas up and go.

I feel for anyone that loses what they have but in speaking with friends who live (and remain) in lower Manhattan, this isn't the end of civilization as we know it, it's destruction in a heavily populated area that would have done far more damage in just about any other country on earth.

If a person pays the premium to live on a sandbar with an elevation of 0', and the news is forecasting an oncoming storm, it might be a good idea to leave before things hit. Once out of the affected area, fuel availability isn't really an issue anymore.

I'm not disagreeing with anything anyone has posted. Being from NY and having left many years ago, one of the reasons is the mentality base. I have no sympathy for those unprepared.
Everything i have read the 2 biggest issues seem to be for the masses are
1) MY CELL PHONE Battery is DEAD
2) I have nothing to eat

STFU, deal with this shit once there is a hint of a storm heading your way.
People will keep their starbucks coupons within arms length but not extra's of anything else.

Outside of being my brother one thing he did for everyone back east was make sure they all had some kind of emergency supplies on hand. 1-2 months probably not. NY is instant gratification 24/7
However enough to last a week, 2 tops, better than most.

[jerrymrc]

I only watched part of a video where a woman is screaming "Were going to die!" It has been three days now and there are old people. We are going to die! Where is president obama?

I guess Jim said it correctly when he talked about the mentality. It is not like they have not had storms before. But I guess in the past with the service station and stores a couple of blocks away.....

So lets put away the east coast survival kit. Good for a week, takes up a small amount of space and needs no maintenance. Food not included.

One burner Butane stove. $18 On sale at Big 5 all the time.
Butane. 12 cans is like $25
Midland ER102 Emergency Radio. $43 has crank that can charge your precious cell phone as well as batteries.
Solar camp shower for hot water $13 even if it would not get hot enough back east you could add a little water from the stove and take a shower/wash dishes...
One LED camp light $20. I have a few of these and puts out quite a bit of light. Since she is complaining about it getting cold We throw in 4 wick lamps at $6 each and $25 worth of overpriced "lamp oil" 4 of these going in one 15X20 room with a few adults will keep it toasty in the evening while listening to the radio.


So along with some batteries $168 buys a family a week of cooking, providing some light, hot water and some heat. Now will this do it all? No, but it will provide some of whats missing when the power and gas go out.


I bet if you walked up to many after the storm and offered all of the above for $500 they would have jumped at it.


Just some thoughts.

[ChunkyMonkey]

Looting, lawlessness are rampant!

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.1196031

Meanwhile...

Thursday Report: Bloomberg Wouldn't Let Guard Into Brooklyn Over Their Possession of Guns

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blu...#ixzz2BDyRyyn8
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blu...their-possessi

[roberth]

Looting, lawlessness are rampant!

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.1196031

From the article

Good Samaritans had set up makeshift food throughout the peninsula Friday, grilling food and passing out water, while the Red Cross and FEMA was nowhere in sight.

See that, 2 national "assistance" organizations with their billions of dollars are NOWHERE IN SIGHT.

/snip National Guard story

Once again if falls to the individual or a group to do the work the government promised.

[ChadAmberg]

Once again if falls to the individual or a group to do the work the government promised.

It's pretty sad though, even the government has enough sense to tell folks to keep 3 days of food/water available. Something I read said that almost everyone in NYC only eats out almost all the time. The most food they may have available is a box of poptarts and a can of soup, and no stored water. Remember folks, these big city folks are "your betters" in their not so humble opinion.

Here's a great link from Colorado Springs on emergency planning: http://www.springsgov.com/units/fire...ty%20Guide.pdf