damn ! Apartment situations ?

[Omicron]

Ive been reading through the threads , you guys are scaring me !

I live in a 3rd floor apartment , camping gear is in storage , I have weapons and ammo , no places to store SHTF water or food really.

anyone else live in an apatment ? whats your setup ? any bottom line "must do's" fo me ? besides moving lol ?

Im in the grab my shit and head for the hills/plains kinda mindset now ?
hard i guess with my camping gear 20min away in a stoage unit.

What would you do .

While you want enough supplies at your apartment to be able to "bug in" for a week or two, that can't be your long term plan. So what I'd do is store food and water stockpiles at the same storage unit where your camping gear is. Consider this as your second bug out location - if you had food/water there it might be more defensible than your apartment is. But regardless, Make sure you have a vehicle that can hold all your gear and stockpiles. Then if the SHTF, bug in for a week or two, then load up your weapons, go to the storage unit, then either stay there for a while or pack the truck, and bug out.

You might also want to have some extra fuel stored there (you'll need to put some Stabil in it, and rotate it every couple of years) as if the SHTF and you do have to bug out 2 weeks later, fuel may well be hard to come by.

One final thing: "Head to the hills" does not a bugout plan make. Pick several locations, pre-scout them, make sure you have good maps to them and know all the alternate ways in to them. If you have friend(s) with land that's best, as there's low chance of someone else getting there before you and preventing you from using that location. But also realize that there'll be a half million people in Denver who all think they can "head for the hills" and become mountain man survivalists if need be. Find a way to not compete with them, as in, go somewhere less likely to become people saturated.

Hope this helps.

[ChunkyMonkey]

Perhaps my SHTF scenarios are lesser than some..but most SHTF situation (Earthquake, riot, flood etc) last 7-14 days. I am prepared for much longer than that.. but if you can cover the first week for all of your household members and then some, you already cover most of likely scenarios.

Once you achieved this, then go read Light Out and One Second After.

[Dr_Fwd]

Once you achieved this, then go read Light Out and One Second After.

Yeap!
After I finished the damn book I couldn't sleep for a couple of weeks!

Seriously though - you really want to think about where you're gonna go if SHTF. Prepping is not something that you do as a project (ie "ok, I'm gonna go buy this that and that, make some Bobs and i'm done"). Prepping is a LIFESTYLE.
Me and my budy we spent a lot of weekends driving all around CO looking for a good place where we're gonna go with our families if SHTF... After we found a good spot - we bought it. Didn't cost too much.. We also put two motor homes there (they are not drivable, we just use them as shelters).
Every time we can we bring more supplies there(secret spot not far from those motor homes) + stuff that we keep at home...
I keep about a month + supply at home for me and my wife.
This is really endless... It's gonna cost you some money to start but once you start you just buy little by little every other day..
Anyway, the most important thing is - you START THINKING ABOUT IT!

P. S. Yes I am Nucking Futs like that.

[Omicron]

Yeap!
After I finished the damn book I couldn't sleep for a couple of weeks!

Seriously though - you really want to think about where you're gonna go if SHTF. Prepping is not something that you do as a project (ie "ok, I'm gonna go buy this that and that, make some Bobs and i'm done"). Prepping is a LIFESTYLE.
Me and my budy we spent a lot of weekends driving all around CO looking for a good place where we're gonna go with our families if SHTF... After we found a good spot - we bought it. Didn't cost too much.. We also put two motor homes there (they are not drivable, we just use them as shelters).
Every time we can we bring more supplies there(secret spot not far from those motor homes) + stuff that we keep at home...
I keep about a month + supply at home for me and my wife.
This is really endless... It's gonna cost you some money to start but once you start you just buy little by little every other day..
Anyway, the most important thing is - you START THINKING ABOUT IT!

P. S. Yes I am Nucking Futs like that.

Actually, I'd say you're spot on.

[HoneyBadger]

Seriously though - you really want to think about where you're gonna go if SHTF. Prepping is not something that you do as a project (ie "ok, I'm gonna go buy this that and that, make some Bobs and i'm done"). Prepping is a LIFESTYLE.
Me and my budy we spent a lot of weekends driving all around CO looking for a good place where we're gonna go with our families if SHTF... After we found a good spot - we bought it. Didn't cost too much.. We also put two motor homes there (they are not drivable, we just use them as shelters).
Every time we can we bring more supplies there(secret spot not far from those motor homes) + stuff that we keep at home...
I keep about a month + supply at home for me and my wife.
This is really endless... It's gonna cost you some money to start but once you start you just buy little by little every other day..
Anyway, the most important thing is - you START THINKING ABOUT IT!

This is basically what I want to do, but I think I'm a little greener behind the ears and all that. A young couple with the high likelyhood of kids in the near future don't have a lot of money, but I was looking at some land out by Fairplay.. Maybe 10-20 acres that could also be used as a hunting cabin, relaxing getaway, prepping stash, etc. The only problem with that, is if the SHTF quickly (we're talking overnight chaos), we wouldn't be able to make it out in time and it would all be a loss...

ETA: Somewhere someone mentioned the idea of a prepping gated community... I love this idea, but it would take a lot of work to make it happen.

[Dr_Fwd]

This is basically what I want to do, but I think I'm a little greener behind the ears and all that. A young couple with the high likelyhood of kids in the near future don't have a lot of money, but I was looking at some land out by Fairplay.. Maybe 10-20 acres that could also be used as a hunting cabin, relaxing getaway, prepping stash, etc. The only problem with that, is if the SHTF quickly (we're talking overnight chaos), we wouldn't be able to make it out in time and it would all be a loss...

ETA: Somewhere someone mentioned the idea of a prepping gated community... I love this idea, but it would take a lot of work to make it happen.

My plan is to stay home as long as possible.

Gated community = a lot of people in limited territory. Lots of people = lots of different opinions. Lots of different opinions = a lot of troubles...

[HoneyBadger]

My plan is to stay home as long as possible.

Gated community = a lot of people in limited territory. Lots of people = lots of different opinions. Lots of different opinions = a lot of troubles...

Well, the idea would be to get a lot of people with the same basic opinions, and the same PRINCIPLES about liberty, and they should be able to play nice. It would be a bunch of preppers who want to survive and rebuild. There would of course have to be some sort of local government, even if it is just bylaws or something. And who said anything about limited territory? Each plot could be 1 acre, 5 acres, or whatever you want. I wasn't thinking of a modern "gated community" so much as a mutual survival community. Maybe 20-50 people?

[ChunkyMonkey]

Well, the idea would be to get a lot of people with the same basic opinions, and the same PRINCIPLES about liberty, and they should be able to play nice. It would be a bunch of preppers who want to survive and rebuild. There would of course have to be some sort of local government, even if it is just bylaws or something. And who said anything about limited territory? Each plot could be 1 acre, 5 acres, or whatever you want. I wasn't thinking of a modern "gated community" so much as a mutual survival community. Maybe 20-50 people?

Heck no... noone sharing my bunker and 2000 gl underground water storage and well....

[HoneyBadger]

also realize that there'll be a half million people in Denver who all think they can "head for the hills" and become mountain man survivalists if need be. Find a way to not compete with them, as in, go somewhere less likely to become people saturated.

I've been thinking more and more lately about the possibility of heading East if I had to leave the fortress. It's a really tough one though, because when you look East, what do you see? Nothing. No water, no trees, no good soil for growing things, no protection from the wind, no mountains to hide in.

Best possible scenario: You have a plot of land that is stocked, defensible, and well away from everyone else. You see the sh*tstorm coming and you bug out before it even starts, avoiding the hysteria and panic of a million sheep/zombies in Denver. A few examples: if the military is fighting on US soil, if nuclear tensions are worse than the cuban missile crisis, if there is a national loss of utilities or shortage of a resource like gas or food, GTFO.

[Omicron]

I've been thinking more and more lately about the possibility of heading East if I had to leave the fortress. It's a really tough one though, because when you look East, what do you see? Nothing. No water, no trees, no good soil for growing things, no protection from the wind, no mountains to hide in.

Best possible scenario: You have a plot of land that is stocked, defensible, and well away from everyone else. You see the sh*tstorm coming and you bug out before it even starts, avoiding the hysteria and panic of a million sheep/zombies in Denver. A few examples: if the military is fighting on US soil, if nuclear tensions are worse than the cuban missile crisis, if there is a national loss of utilities or shortage of a resource like gas or food, GTFO.

Yup, me too. So find a place or places that have well water, and farms. There's plenty of good soil and places out East if you know where to look.